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09/25/23 07:54 AM #10894    

 

Jim Coats

It appears that Mr. Biden will "march" with the UAW today?  Is that right?  God, I wish he would march with the Border Patrol and stop the invasion that is destroying our economy and our Republic.  The invasion, and everything it entails, is a bit more substantive than a UAW strike.....wouldn't you say?

SECURE THE BORDER!!  ENFORCE THE LAW!!  AMERICA FIRST!!  FOLLOW THE MONEY!!


09/25/23 09:20 AM #10895    

 

Bill Kaehler

Dennis- Nice post on the choices to be hateful or respectable.  Respect goes a long way in having a real conversation and an exchange of ideas.
 
My opinion on the ideology of "staying in middle" might be a little different than yours.  Staying in the middle is just another way a person can say he has not made a choice, or just doesn't know what to think.  I suspect that is not you.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but I would say you have made choices on major issues.  It's just that on some issues you are liberal, and on other issues you are conservative.  It happens to most of us.

09/25/23 09:30 AM #10896    

 

DeWitt Bacon

SO! I see that Katie is back. Funny how she comes back after I left. I guess she couldn't take my rebukes anymore. lol. NO, I AM NOT BACK AFTER BEING THROWN UNDER THE BUSS BY THOSE I THOUGHT WERE FRIENDS, But I will take the opportunity to debate any liberal, Marxist-leaning Democrat who ignores the facts or loves to see our country destroyed. I suggest they read Mark Levin's books "THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY HATES AMERICA" and  "AMERICAN SOCIALISM."  However, those are long reads and may be beyond some of their intelligence. 

No, I'm not back, but I check the forum occasionally. And I will do my best to discredit the Marxists who hate America.


09/25/23 09:40 AM #10897    

 

Bill Kaehler

Katie- Nice starting point on the issue of border security.  Some of your comments made good sense to me, and others are very debateable.  However, in your discussion, it was also clearly noted that you purposely decided not to capitalize the name of our previous president . . . Donald Trump.  Very disrespectful.  It diminished the credibility of your whole post.


09/25/23 09:42 AM #10898    

 

DeWitt Bacon

Katie. Your post on the border shows who the true deplorables are. Countries have borders to keep unwanted people out. You know, like criminals, spies, and those who want to destroy their country. We are allowing anyone and everyone to come through our border without any vetting of any kind—even those from enemy countries like Russia and China. Every one of your points is without merit. We have laws to PROTECT  our borders. Not to destroy them.


09/25/23 09:57 AM #10899    

 

Jim Coats

Rear-View-Mirror Doctrine, Katie.  Of course mistakes were made.  Nobody is as perfect as.....Biden.  The point we/I have tried to make is SECURE THE BORDER with whatever means are at hand....Wall, Technology, Manpower....and stop or at the very least, slow down the invasion.  Then figure out what to do with all the illegals already here. 

ENFORCING THE LAW might be another good step.  We have a democrat-run Justice Department and "they" need to enforce the laws on the books and stop cutting criminals loose with a hand slap.

I do not see you on the Forum for a reasonable conversation.  I see you mimicking our legislators.....D & R.....who say we "Need A Comprehensive Immigration Policy."  This falls under the "No S**t Sherlock" doctrine.   And you said most of the "undocumented" (illegal aliens) who come into the country come in legally simply overstay their visas.  You MUST be kidding!  That statement is not worth debate because it is so patently false and you know it.

We are surrounded.  Attack in any direction and make it count.

 


09/25/23 11:14 AM #10900    

 

Frank Wiley

The person I trust the most on the Border issues is Tom Homan and he has said numerous times the Border was in the Best Shape EVER when Trump was President and the "remain in Mexico"  policy forced the Mexican Government to pinch the flow at its Southern Border.  Lyin Biden actually said, "The Border is Open" when he took office which took the Border from its Best situation to its WORST situation.  Many Liberal Cities and States who proudly bragged about being "Sanctuary" are now admitting to their mistakes and begging we "Secure Border" advocates pay for their mistakes!!  Every day on FOX News you can watch the travesty at the Border including drownings, rapes, and mollestations of adults and children.  Google Tom Homan if you don't know who he is.


09/25/23 08:09 PM #10901    

 

Bill RIHS

Katie, how about Biden uninvited migrates and start upholding the laws we have. He initiated/invited the flood of illegals. What would you think about Biden started by really enforcing illegal traspassing with the provison that both parties pass a "comprehensive immigration policy/law" within X months. If it does not happen he can go back to the criminal policies that exist today. Also, I have heard many Border Patrol offices discribe how much better secured the border was under Trump. I did not see any references to your statements regarding border wall costs. I could understand you voting for anyone democrat other than Biden but choosing Biden under any circumstance, is far beyond my ability to comprehend as sane judgement. Welcome back😎


09/25/23 08:33 PM #10902    

 

Michael Kelly

There are several here who served in the Military, some as Officers and so I will start with a Maxim of General Truth.

1. You are in a life endangering situation like being shot at, and you are faced with what appears to be an almost insurmountable obstacle. What must you avoid doing at all costs?

You must make a decision to move your Troops to a different postion to avoid being slaughtered, and then if possible, mount an offensive. If you make a mistake, you must not dwell on it, you must quickly make a more informed decision, which will remedy the mistakes you just made. DONT FREEZE UP.

WHEN WE SPEAK IF THE SOUTHERN BORDER CRISIS. We must stop the Invasion. How? Well everyone or almost everyone decries the efficacy of the Border Fence. It remains unfinished at BIDENS'S EXPLICIT DIRECTION. ACCORDING TO THE ABOVE, HIS MOVE WAS IN ORDERING IMMEDIATE HALT TO THE FURTHER INSTALLATION, WAS A TOTAL ABJECT COMPLETE AND WASTEFUL FAILURE. WE HAVE THE EVIDENCE TO PROVE IT NOW, FOR THE LAST TWENTY EIGHT MONTHS. SO LETS NOT ARGUE OVER THE MERITS OF FINISHING THE FENCE, OVER EMPLOYING A FLEET IF DRONES, OR HIRING MORE BORDER PATROL AGENTS WITH THE NAUGHTY HORSES THAT CAN CHASE THE POOR ILLEGALS BACK INTO THE RIVER, OR STRATEGICALLY PLACED RADAR TOWERS EVERY TWENTY MILES THAT CAN DETECT MOVEMENT AT A COST OF 100 MILLION DOLLRS APIECE, TO BE COMPLETED IN FIFTEEN YEARS, AND DEBATE ABOUT IT FOR TWO MORE YEARS.

LETS DO SOMETHING NOW, FINISH THE DAMNED FENCE AND ENFORCE THE IMMIGRATION LAWS THAT ARE ON THE BOOKS. AS FRANK WILEY MENTIONED, TOM HOMAN, THE MOST EXPERIENCED BORDER PATROL OFFICER HAS SAID, TRUMP USED THE EXISTING IMMIGRATION LAW VERY EFFECTIVELY AND WITH THE BEST SUCCESS HE HAS SEEN IN HIS ENTIRE CAREER. SILLY DEBATE CAN BE DONE BY SILLY PEOPLE, OFFICERS GET THINGS DONE. 


09/26/23 12:18 PM #10903    

 

Michael Kelly

The Carhaart Outdoor Wear corporation has experienced significant losses over the last 2 quarters and so in a defensive position for Stockholders has issued two classes of new stocks, Those two classes are Pre-Fetterman and Post-Fetterman Stocks, and has named a new line of Hoodies called "Baby Hueys".

Curious as I am, is it true that General Milley really did fear that Trump was planning to use the Troops against the elected candidates in the 2020 Election ? If this assertion is true, How did General Milley know that Trump would "Lose" ? Did he have some kind of insider information?  OMG   So that must be the reason that 80 Billion Dollars worth of American Weapons were left in Afghanistan, but leaving the Weapons there was after biden assumed power. ? . Also the drawdown of the Troops was after biden assumed power. Someone is significantly behind the Times, or someone here is "Blowing Smoke" It must be yet another manifestation of TDS Trump Derangement Syndrome. 

I remember Trump speaking of Milley's decision to leave the American Weapons, 80 billion dollars behind, and Trump asked "Why are we leaving this all behind?" Trump said that the Answer he got from Milley caused he Trump to call Milley the South end of a Mule headed North, and Trump thought it was a big mistake. Trump had originally set up the Drawdown for March 2020 but biden delayed it to August 2021. So how would Milley know that the Weapons would be left behind.  Perhaps I have the Dates wrong, but for Milley not to care about leaving the Weapons behind strikes me as not merely a questionable Strategic Move, it makes me think that someone else is directing the Strategy's of our Country. 


09/26/23 09:27 PM #10904    

 

Bill RIHS

I really can not see how to have a logical conversation with you. You never answer questions I ask, just hate Trump and anyone Republicans. You say you have great debates with "conservatives" , not under my definition of conservative. There is no common ideology within your distain for Trump. Policy vs. personality? Obviously, you can not see the obvious and refuse to criticize your President and the left calling his action/policies.


09/27/23 12:41 AM #10905    

 

Dennis Moran

I was disappointed by President Biden marching in the picket line. As a former non-union worker he doesn't represent me...  Arizona is a Right to work state.  Which means we are under the bosses thumb and we could do nothing to protect our jobs.  The company was always in charge and they would work around senority and downsize any thime they wanted... our brothers and sister who in california were union.. the company wouldn't touch them.  A president should be in the middle and not on one side or the other. Biden is a politician first and everything else as time permits.

In right to work states their is no protections for workers.  

The removal of gas and coal should of been over time not right away. I like the solar idea but it needed time to develop and incentives could of been higher.  President Biden caused the huge cost in gas and other fuel driven supplies.  Russia just went along, Saudi Arabia just went along, Venezuela just went along.. only the big V was rewarded with getting rid of complaining workers and admitting thenstm to cimbola where the streets are paved with gold.

 

Its time to follow Texas lead and barb wire the rivers, then take pictures of the people finding they can't get in here.  Instead Biden actions have made the Drug Cartels the most efficient business of the decade.

My question is how many liberals enjoy freedom under the Cartels....just curious.  I''d ask for a show of hands but they are already seperated from the bodies...   

Given enough buses, lets load up our newest citizens for the promished land oh and a little more for Delaware.  And please don't forget California, Oregon, and Washington..

And im a middle of the roader; not a Republican or Democrat.  

Please help me Dr. Jill with a little of what your giving the big B; would be nice..yea I still have some chocolate cigagrett papers.

Not sure how to explain this; President Trump and President Biden; the only way to tell them apart is Trump tells you everything he is planning/does it and Biden says very little. but what he says smells like yesterdays diapers.he then does it.   We are part of two groups and you all can fight it out for which one;  STUPID AND STUPIDER.

At least Senator Mendez felt all the money and gold was his.  How many of our elected officials will be that honest,

Trump is stupid for what he says and he thinks we believe him.  Biden is stupider for what he says and only he believes it. ... he has just had too many covid shots..

Trump does what most if not all business leaders do he makes up his own balance sheet and presents it to banks who want to make money and have played this game for years.

Now some good news the President is coming to Arizona this week so I'm putting in my order of fairy dust; hope it gets here in time.

Dennis.


09/27/23 10:41 AM #10906    

 

Frank Wiley

We are in a unusual economic syndrome now.  The Economy is slowing and the price per Barrel of oil is increasing.  American seniors who haven't planned properly are in for a big shock.  Credit Cards debt is at a all time high and the interest rates have doubled.  Some people are taking second mortgages to pay off the cards.  Those second mortgage interest rates have doubled.  The Fed keeps saying we're going to have a "soft landing".  I don't think so!!


09/27/23 11:38 AM #10907    

 

DeWitt Bacon

Katie,

There you go again, spouting your anti-American garbage. The Marxist in you shines through like headlights. I guess you don't like Biden because he is not anti-American enough for you. You would probably prefer to have an all-out dictator like Newsome as President. You say you will not vote for any Republican, but you will gladly vote for another Marxist who will continue to destroy our country. You hate Donald Trump for reasons I don't think you understand. You are watching too many far-left-wing news outlets. You talk about all the lies Trump told yet ignore all the lies from the left. No, Trump is not perfect. Who of us here is? But tell me one lie he has told that affects the American people. And don't bring up that "MEXICO WILL PAY FOR THE WALL" bullshit. Trump never expected President Obrador to sit at his desk and write out a check to our treasury department for the billions of dollars it cost, But they paid dearly. How much do you think it cost Mexico to provide thousands of troops along the border and to take care of those in the remain-in-Mexico policy? In his 2016 campaign, he told America what he would do, and he did it. We had the most robust economy in history and he built the strongest military in history. Not to start wars but to provide "PEACE  THROUGH STRENGTH." He was ending wars and bringing troops home. He would have left Afghanistan without leaving people behind by getting Americans and VISA holders out first and then closing the military bases while leaving Bsgram open to keep an eye on the Chinese nuclear weapons facilities. But no, with the help of Gen. Milly and Secretary Austin urging him on many Americans were left to fend for themselves, Hiding in fear while others who were on our side were being executed. You probably cheered when that happened. I won't go into the failing economy and recession our country is going through. The "NEW GREEN DEAL" is a farce promoted by the Marxist left. They shut down American oil but buy it from dirtier oil producers in our enemy countries. I think Donald J. Trump is the only candidate that can end this crap and give us our country back. The Democrat party today Hates America. They hate individual freedom. They hate liberty. They hate blind justice. They hate the Constitution and our republic. They hate everything we stand for and will not stop until they are voted out or have completely destroyed our country. Your support of the open border with the criminals and poison coming across tells us a lot about you. By the way, Fentanyl is not a drug. It is a poison.

Katie, I know that you can see that you don't have much support in the forum, except maybe for Dennis. And you probably will not have much unless you bring back some of your leftist friends. That's OK. I will eat them for lunch like I always have. 


09/27/23 11:57 AM #10908    

 

Bill Kaehler

Katie-  Wow!  Your hatred of Trump even extends to people that would consider voting for him (Nikki Haley).  That's a whole lot of hate to be carrying around in your baggage.  You tell us Trump is a traitor, and by definition, he has done nothing traitorous.  It is your stated opinion, but your opinion is not factual.  Just because the man is dislikable in many ways doesn't make him a "traitor".


09/28/23 10:07 AM #10909    

 

Lester Cox

Paul Harvey did this broadcast in 1967. A very good read.

 

 

PAUL HARVEY’S ‘IF I WERE THE DEVIL’ TRANSCRIPT

If I were the devil … If I were the Prince of Darkness, I’d want to engulf the whole world in darkness. And I’d have a third of its real estate, and four-fifths of its population, but I wouldn’t be happy until I had seized the ripest apple on the tree — Thee.  So I’d set about however necessary to take over the United States. I’d subvert the churches first — I’d begin with a campaign of whispers. With the wisdom of a serpent, I would whisper to you as I whispered to Eve: ‘Do as you please.’

“To the young, I would whisper that ‘The Bible is a myth.’ I would convince them that man created God instead of the other way around. I would confide that what’s bad is good, and what’s good is ‘square.’ And the old, I would teach to pray, after me, ‘Our Father, which art in Washington…’

“And then I’d get organized. I’d educate authors in how to make lurid literature exciting, so that anything else would appear dull and uninteresting. I’d threaten TV with dirtier movies and vice versa. I’d pedal narcotics to whom I could. I’d sell alcohol to ladies and gentlemen of distinction. I’d tranquilize the rest with pills.

“If I were the devil I’d soon have families that war with themselves, churches at war with themselves, and nations at war with themselves; until each in its turn was consumed. And with promises of higher ratings I’d have mesmerizing media fanning the flames. If I were the devil I would encourage schools to refine young intellects, but neglect to discipline emotions — just let those run wild, until before you knew it, you’d have to have drug sniffing dogs and metal detectors at every schoolhouse door.

“Within a decade I’d have prisons overflowing, I’d have judges promoting pornography — soon I could evict God from the courthouse, then from the schoolhouse, and then from the houses of Congress. And in His own churches I would substitute psychology for religion, and deify science. I would lure priests and pastors into misusing boys and girls, and church money. If I were the devil I’d make the symbols of Easter an egg and the symbol of Christmas a bottle.

“If I were the devil I’d take from those who have, and give to those who want until I had killed the incentive of the ambitious.

And what do you bet I could get whole states to promote gambling as the way to get rich? I would caution against extremes and hard work in Patriotism, in moral conduct. I would convince the young that marriage is old-fashioned, that swinging is more fun, that what you see on the TV is the way to be. And thus, I could undress you in public, and I could lure you into bed with diseases for which there is no cure. In other words, if I were the devil I’d just keep right on doing what he’s doing.

Paul Harvey, good day.”


09/28/23 10:16 AM #10910    

 

Frank Wiley

Another reason I don't want Trump is because Jared Kushner has taken a pile of money from the Saudis since Trump left office.  I think Lyin Biden needs to be investigated for possibly receiving money through Hunter.  The Democrats will pursue Trump if he's re-elected because Jared has received this money.  The difference is, of course, that Jared Kushner disclosed the money he's received and apparently has paid taxes on the money.  Remember, as the Democrats criticize the investigation into the Biden's, they were the ones that pursued the Russian Impeachment Hoax!!


09/28/23 11:05 AM #10911    

 

Jim Coats

Lester.  Paul Harvey was prescient, wasn't he?  This is not the first time I have read this "post" of his.  It is frighteningly accurate as to "OUR" current circumstances in this country.  Thank you for the post.

Frank.  Interesting how Jared is the same....but different from Hunter, eh?  Full disclosure and paying taxes on $$ received is a bit different.....and maybe refreshing, no?

Here is my take-away from the "debate" last night and from what I have heard so far from the hearing this a.m..  I will try to simplify my analysis so that our democrat friends on this site will have no doubt what I'm saying.  My take-away is curiously familiar, but I can't quite put my finger on it.  Somebody has been saying this here for some time, I think.  Oh, yeah!  It was me for the last 3 years.  Anyhow, like the candidates or not, here's what I believe they all said:

SECURE THE BORDER

ENFORCE THE LAW

AMERICA FIRST

FOLLOW THE MONEY

Now....my opinion:  Do these "things" or we will surely lose our country.


09/28/23 11:06 AM #10912    

 

Bill Kaehler

Katie, your opinion about Trump's alleged traitorism is noted, as it has been noted before.  You make a good attempt to fit his actions or inactions into the definition of a traitor.  I think the legal system will have the last say on that . . .someday.  As of today, your accusation is based heavily on assumptions and is not factual.
 
As for hate being spent on Biden, I think it has.  My post was not about Joe Biden.  But lots of hate has been thrown around in many directions.
 
Your analysis of the debate was well taken.  For me, there was a whole lot of mayhem by the candidates and the moderators ( I hope they carry Allstate insurancewink ).  I think I missed a lot of the "dialouge" because my ears/brain do not hear words when many people, or even two people are talking over each other.  I suppose, from what I did hear, Trump will maintain most of his lead over the others in national polls.  But I did agree with DeSantis about polls not being the same as votes.  Things will solidify for Trump, or begin to disolve for Trump, when voters start voting.  We shall see.

09/28/23 12:14 PM #10913    

 

Frank Wiley

Jim, Good synopsis of things covered in the debate.  One more all the Candidates support was Parental Control, not school control, of their children.  Lester, I too have read Paul Harveys quote.  It's right to the point and prophetic!  Thanks!!


09/28/23 02:46 PM #10914    

 

Jim Coats

Frank.  You are absolutely correct!  This was another major point about which ALL on the stage agreed.  How can any sane person NOT agree??  Parents must be in charge of their kids.....NOT the pus-filled Teacher's Union and School Boards.  This, as DeWitt and others have consistently pointed out is right out of the marxist Playbook.  Read Paul Harvey's quote a few posts back.


09/28/23 04:40 PM #10915    

 

DeWitt Bacon

Katie,

If anyone fits the description of treason in your Article 3 Section 3 post, it is Joe Biden. He has, for decades, given aid and comfort to the enemies of the United States. In his time as VP and President, he has given in to their demands and taken money to allow them to take a position to go to war with us. He has made it possible for billions of dollars of our military equipment and top-secret technology to be sold to the highest bidder of our enemies. He has weakened our military to the point that we don't have the strength to defend our country. He has the blood of American citizens on his hands.

And which GOP candidate is it that has committed crimes that Nikki Haley said she would vote for?


09/28/23 04:43 PM #10916    

 

DeWitt Bacon

I have the full audio of that Paus Harvey broadcast. Too bad he isn't still around to tell it like it is.


09/28/23 11:01 PM #10917    

 

Bill RIHS

Boy Katie, those are good rants! In my first post to you I ask you what you thought about my proposed solution to the border and immigration issues. I was trying to start a dialog on a solution. Guess you were not interested. As far as you wanting a total revamp of the immigration system we don't follow anymore, no patch work fixes; I feel that is like saying I must replace my whole roof before I stop the leaks I have today. Oh, I don't believe I ever said you disrespected Trump by not capitalizing his name. Can you find that post? I did agree generally with your rundown about the debate last night. What do you think about the Paul Harvey quote in relation to the state of the US today.


09/29/23 12:08 AM #10918    

 

Michael Kelly

Seems to me Paul Harvey hit on a Universal Truth. My grandfather always listened to Paul Harvey and introduced me to his Radio Show when I was a small boy.

I saw a short advertisement with Morgan Freeman speaking to a Youmg Woman, who was confused, and he asked her  'Wnen you Pray to God for Patience, do you thing God just gives you Patience, or does he let you experience circumstances where you can Learn Patience?" He had four questions and Answers for her to consider. I thought it was very inciteful. Hope you get to see this advertisement also. 

I think our politics are the same way. We have to listen to what they say, knowing that half or more of what they say is not going to happen and if it does we may not like what we giet. 

I don't know a whole lot about many of the candidates, and I do know when Trump was President he did a good Job of protecting our Country from KNOWN ENEMIES AND DID NOT DO STUPID THINGS TO WRECK OUR ECONOMY. BACK THEN I COULD GO INTO ARCO, GET GAS, AND BUY A BAG OF OATMEAL AND RAISIN COOKIES FOR A DOLLAR, NOW THEY ARE ALMOST TRIPLE THAT AMOUNT AND ITS ONLY BEEN A LITTLE OVER TWO AND HALF YEARS. 

BIDEN SCREWED THIS UP FOR ME AND IT SUCKS. THE PRICE OF GAS IS 7.89 CENTS A GALLON NOW, BACK THEN IN THE DOLLAR COOKIE DAYS, GAS WAS ONLY TWO DOLLARS A GALLON. BIDEN SIGNED HIS SIGNATURE ONE  TIME AND HE HAS SCREWED UP THE WORLDS LARGEST ECONOMY. HE MUST LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND SNEER AND SAY "BOY, I HAVE SCREWED UP MICHAEL J. KELLYS DOLLAR COOKIE DAYS HA HA HA"  Well, to you Joe Biden, in my opinion you are a (YOU FILL IT IN)..


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