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12/27/25 10:29 AM #15720    

 

Lester Cox

Happy belated birthday Cheryl. 


12/27/25 10:44 AM #15721    

 

Randy Edwards

It would seem that everyone had a paper route with lots of stories. So, I'll share one. My station was at the Valley bank on 36th and Thomas where the papers were dumped on the east sidewalk near the double glass doors. While folding and banding my papers I leaned on the door handle and propmtly fell into the Valley bank.I walk over to the managers desk and called the police. Who later determikned the cleaning crew had failed to  lock the doors. Two months later the same thing occured - I believe the cleaning crew was fired this time..


12/27/25 01:58 PM #15722    

 

Michael Wetzel

Cheryl, I never rode in that large ol wagon, with the rest of you kids. But I did help Mr. Edwards set it up a couple of times, for his rides. I enjoyed watching him drive all of you down the street. I still think of him, quite frequently and the chores I helped him with. I fed the cows, his milk cow ( Betsy I believe ), his horses, chickens, and those turkeys of his. Turkeys have to be one of the meanest critters on earth. No matter how many times I fed them, they would still chase you all the way home.  He had the most fertile gardens you could find, with his own mixture of his own making for fertizler. Whenever I went fishing in the canal, we would dig up some of his worms, the size of which you wouldn't believe. Like I have stated, I loved the old gentleman, and still to this day, miss him ! I have many other memories of visiting his farm, perhaps for another time..........


12/27/25 02:39 PM #15723    

 

DeWitt Bacon

Cheryl, Thanks for rejoining our chat. Yes, it is nice to get away from politics for a while and talk about the "GOOD 'OL DAYS."  I'm not sure who the Ed you mentioned is, but I also lived on 36th just south of Osborn, across from Monte Vista. Osbourn ended at 36th Street, and an irrigation ditch continued east from there. I remember gathering along that ditch where some kids would smoke. If anyone remembers Shannon Ivers, he lived on 36th on the north side of the ditch. That was still in the county, and there were a few horses around. I had older sisters, and my dad bought them a horse from Mr. Thompson, who lived on Earl Drive east of 36th Street.  Mr. Thompson had a son, Bill Thompson, better known as Wallace Sneed, who appeared on a Channel 5 kids' show. That horse had a protruding backbone and was almost impossible to ride without a saddle, which we didn't have. Lol. Dad finally sold that horse. I hope it wasn't to Ed. Lol. 

I guess you could call us the "36th Street Gang.


12/27/25 08:59 PM #15724    

 

Jim Coats

Bill Rihs.  That swimming pool on the No. side of Indian School around 37th St. was Parker Pool.  It was small but pretty nice.  Of course, Perry Pool South of Thomas on the West side of 32nd St. (Perry Park where I played a lot of baseball) was HUGE.  I liked them both.

I actually took swimming lessons at Dick Smith's Swim Gym East of 28th St. & on the South side of Campbell (very close to CHS).  I never did like the breast stroke where you had to exhale under water and inhale when you stroked.  Soooo, I held my breath crossing the pool over and back and built up some real good lung power for a kid who was sickly when younger.

Someone told me Dick Smith was a former Olympian or maybe an Olympic Coach.  Anyone know anything about that?  I know my trainer (Orville) got me to dive off the high board and that sort of changed my whole attitudesmiley.

Good to see Cheryl on board.  You might try one of our Beer Summits at The Vig.  No politics, No religion.

P.S.  What famous TV star rode a horse named Diablo.  Hint.  His partner was Pancho.


12/27/25 10:03 PM #15725    

 

Bill RIHS

Jim, I believe Perry pool was off of 32nd st. And Thomas.  I played a lot of baseball there and swimmming. I had Mrs. Perry for homeroom teacher, I think 5th or 6th grade. She tapped my mouth shut, I was special😎. I believe her husband donated the land where Perry Park was and is the same today.

Cheryl, welcome back! I agree with Jim, come to our Beer Summit, no politics, really! Promise!!!


12/28/25 01:54 AM #15726    

 

Michael Kelly

Folks that small pool where on Saturdays I collected the money from the other Newspaper Boys was on Indian School Road, North side and east of 36th Street. Yes, Harley Breedlove was our Manager. DeWitt I remember Shannon Ivers, and Cliff Greenland and Dennis Manning, I called him "Red" because he was redheaded. Rusty Box (your going to think I made the name up) who I remember his parents both rode Black Harley Motorcycles. The frist paperstation I remember was a gasoline station on the south side if Indian School Road, and I think it was at 32nd Street. Back then we could get a Coke out of the Machine and also Peanuts and so we would get a Coke in a Bottle and put the Peanuts in the Bottle with the Coke. Funny how simple stuff was so satisfying, nowadays people would probably about Peanut Allergies if you did that. 

The paper route I had came with a sort of Heritage, for want of a better word, the guy who had it just before me was a Chinese fellow, and he had gotten Straight A's and then a Scholarship to Harvard,  and the paper Carrier that preceded him was a High School Wrestling Champ and he did not ride a Bike to deliver the Newspapers, he would carry the papers by using the two bags and put his head through the Hole in the Center, and not wear a T-Shirt while Running, yes, I said Running the Route that I had. So I got this route, and I was not any good at Math at all like the Chinese guy, and I was getting tall but I had no muscle to speak of, and so I couldn't wrestle and carrying the papers on my back and front with my head stuck through the Holie in the Middle was not going to work, I even tried it once and the canvas of the bag made my shooulders get chafed and pretty red even half way before my Routes were finished. That was not my path to Fame or Notoriety at all. 

I struggled in School, I pretty much cared more about playing Baseball than just about anything else.One class I do remember was with the Latin Teacher, who reminded me of that Movie "Goodbye, Mr. Chips" about a teacher. Our Latin teacher was always wearing Sweaters, and he would wipe his Nose and so he Always had White Chalk smudges on his Nose. He was a good Latin teacher, and taught me how to use Latin pretty well.

Coats I remember taking swimming classes at Dick Smith's Swim Gym so that I could learn how not to drown. I was afraid of the  water, and my Coach finally got tired of me being so much of a coward, and so he said to us that if would could swim all the way across the pool then we would Pass and our Lessons would be over. We swam from one end of the Pool to the other, and so my turn came and I started and swam felt toe first rope, went under it, felt the second rope, went under it but then it seemed like the Pool had gotten longer and longer and longer and I was bagged out for more air, so I figured Ill just give up, and if I drown then its been a good life so far and I have tried my best. So, I quit swimming and thought I won't touch the bottom of the Pool and this will be it, and then my feet hit toe bottom. I stood up and I was at the shallow end of the Pool and the Instructor was behind me and he started laughing at me. He said you looking for the Rope, and he was holding it up out of the water so I wouldn't feel it. We did have to dive off the High Board but that was easier for me since I had learned that I wasnt going to Drown. In retrospect, the Swimming lessons were good, because when I took Lessons to get Qualified for Scuba Diving I had no problems, and So I got PADI Certified in a short period of time. One friend does Diving in Caves that are in the Pacific and you have to get an additional Cerficiation for that. They use those irridescent Balls of String to find their way back out  and you have to gauge your time so that you leave yourself enough time to back trace your way in. My attitude about that is the same as the popular saying "Whi would I want to Dive out of a Perfectly Safe Airplace at 15 thousand feet just to say I have done it" 


12/28/25 05:45 AM #15727    

 

Frank Wiley

Yes Cheryl, Welcome back and please join us at the "Beer Summit".  The Vig has just about any beverage you would want.  You mentioned Wine in a post awhile back.  They have numerous wine choices.  Dick Smith Swim Gym was on the Southeast corner of 20th Street and Campbell.  I went to Madison #2 which was right across the street.  D.S. also had trampolines and a couple times we climbed the fence and bounced when they were closed.  The trampolines were used to teach flips and twists.  I think our Camelback Swim Team trained there.  New Book I endorse;  "1929" by Ross Sorkin.  Some very interesting true things I didn't know about the Stock Market crash.


12/28/25 11:49 AM #15728    

 

Jim Coats

Bill and Frank.  Thanks for straightening out my memory as to the location of Perry Pool and Dick Smith's Swim Gym.  I guess I was close which is pretty good these days.  I Googled Dick Smith and he WAS an Olympic Dive coach and much more.  Quite a life.  My memory served me OK on that one.

No takers on my Trivia Question?  What popular TV star rode a horse named Diablo?  This was in the 50's, of course.  No cheating.  This star's partner was Pancho and his horse was named Loco, I think.

Mike K. Bill Rihs:   What was the name of the bar on the East side of 36th St. North of Indian School, straight across from Chet's Electric (Glen Myrick's Dad) and Barberi (sp?) Cycles?  Was that Wild Horse?  Anyhow, I went in there sometime in the early 70's I think and Rusty Box was the bartender.  I remember him as very friendly and he had very rough hands when we shook.  Another one gone too young. 

I briefly "remembered" Rusty today in the In Memory section.  I do that once in a while for different classmates...even if I don't know them.  Maybe I'm crazy, but I "feel" that possibly family members or even our deceased classmates might somehow see the entry and take some comfort.  I think it's good to not be forgotten.


12/28/25 02:05 PM #15729    

 

David Rainwater

Jim, I can still hear Pancho in my head laughing 'oh ceeesko'.  I suppose it's not very PC anymore, but a fond memory.


12/28/25 02:21 PM #15730    

 

DeWitt Bacon

Jim, I believe that would be the Cisco Kid. And as I recall, that bar was called "Wild Horse Tavern." I went there while home on leave one time and had a couple of beers, but I didn't see anyone I knew.

Did I win a prize? Lol


12/28/25 02:22 PM #15731    

 

Patty Meyers (Anderson)

Cisco Kid??


12/28/25 02:53 PM #15732    

 

Jim Coats

Ding...Ding...Ding!  Correcto mundo!  It was the Cisco Kid (Duncan Reynaldo) and Pancho was played by Leo Carillo.  I enjoyed that show as a young kid.

Sorry....No prize, DeWitt.  Just respect for your memory.

In case you've forgotten why I brought this up, I think Cheryl mentioned a horse named Diablo and that triggered childhood memories.

Lefty.  Interesting what you came up with re: Mr. Wilson.

Bill Rihs.  Wow!  I had NO idea of the connection between Perry Park and Mrs. Perry.  Very interesting!

Fact:  I know of three of our teachers who were WWII Vets and they never mentioned it.  Russ Osterhout, Vince Laybe and Al Soroka.  I think they were all decorated for valor.  Never said a word!


12/30/25 07:24 AM #15733    

Cheryl Faulkner (Sucato)

Thanks for the invite Frank but I don't want to be the only woman at your beer summits!  Just in case, when is it?

 


12/30/25 12:44 PM #15734    

 

DeWitt Bacon

I never knew the connection between Perry Pool and Mrs. Perry at Monte Vista. She was not on my list of favorite teachers there. We did not get along at all. Suffice it to say, my entire life would have been better had I not been put in her class.

I know. "sour grapes," so I'll just move along. 


12/30/25 12:54 PM #15735    

 

DeWitt Bacon

Cheryl, since I live too far from Phoenix now, it's not easy for me to attend the summits, but I have been to a couple. Reading Frank's comments before each summit, I see that women are not only allowed to attend but encouraged to do so. I think you will enjoy it—simple rules: No politics or other controversial subjects like religion—just a good time and having fun for all.


12/31/25 04:21 AM #15736    

 

Frank Wiley

Hi Cheryl, I understand your concern but there usually is a Lady or two who are wives of Classmates.  I think you would be comfortable either way though.  Wednesday, January 14 at 4:30--The Vig on 40th Street just south of Indian School on the east side.


12/31/25 04:33 AM #15737    

 

Frank Wiley

I have a friend here in Pagosa that has a Son who is the Nuclear Engineer on a Nuclear Submarine.  He's responsible to turn the nuclear power on and off.  I didn't know this but when they are in port they shut down the reactor and plug in to the grid.


12/31/25 04:03 PM #15738    

 

Lester Cox

Happy New Year to all, be safe, stay healthy and be kind. 

 


01/01/26 05:37 AM #15739    

 

Frank Wiley

Great New Years messages!  Thanks!


01/01/26 06:40 AM #15740    

 

Frank Wiley

Again I recommend "1929" by Sorkin.  Don't let the 500 pages dissuade you from reading it.  It's packed with great stories and history.  Thanks!


01/01/26 12:59 PM #15741    

 

Michael Wetzel

I can't out do Lester, but Happy New Year, to all my Friends here...............


01/03/26 03:04 PM #15742    

 

Jim Coats

I don't know about you, but I believe my doctors (most of them) practice "assembly line medicine."  Here's what I mean.  I think they live by one code and that is "Get 'em in...Get 'em out...and don't let 'em die on my watch."  My doctors seem to be much less invested in me.  Maybe it's my age.  Maybe it's my insurance (Medicare).  My primary care physician (PCP) told me one time when I mentioned aches and pains that "You're old, what do you expect?"  That's the kind of bedside manner I'm looking for.  I fired her and found another PCP who pretty much feels the same way, but at least he's funnyfrown.

Now, I'm convinced doctors are not much interested in exploring a DIAGNOSIS so that they can "fix me."  I think they want to treat symptoms (mud on the wall theory) so that I'll take my Medicare and go away.  So, they prescribe medicine to "treat symptoms....NOT causes."  This is AFTER I tell them to find out what's wrong with me and KILL IT.

To illustrate my point, here is what I saw on a TV advertisement.  I have made up a ficticious name for the drug they were pushing.  After they told "us" to take the drug, they told us why we shouldn't in the fine print....mucho fine print!

GAMFLOBULOSIN.  Elderly people with dementia-related phychosis have increased risk of death or stroke.  Antidepressents may increase suicidal thoughts and actions and worsen depression in children and young adults.  Report fever, stiff muscles and confusion which can be life threatening; or uncontrolled muscle movements which may be permanent.  High blood sugar can lead to coma or death; weight gain, increased cholesterol, unusual urges, dizziness, seizures, trouble swallowing or sleepiness.  Sounds good. Sign me up!!

RFK,Jr. sounds more on target every day.

At least when Balance of Nature is hawked on TV they say that it has NOT been evaluated by the FDA....in the super-fine print....at the bottom of the screen.  They're not saying you will die a horrible death if you take it....right?

 


01/04/26 05:22 AM #15743    

 

Frank Wiley

Hi Jim, I've been taking Balance of Nature for two years and so far so good.  I think you'll be ok taking it but I'm not a Doctor!  You know of course that all the disclaimers on medication are simply C.Y.A.  And that doesn't stand for Catholic Youth Association!


01/04/26 08:24 AM #15744    

 

Jim Coats

Frank.  Be brutally honest.  Did you see a positive change with Balance of Nature, or did you accompany it with better diet and exercise routine?  

Most of these "snake oil" drugs they hawk on TV come with the admonition to exercise, eat better, drink lots of water and get plenty of sleep, thereby disintegrating a baseline that you could compare to the "Before" status.

I truly hope it works for you, but my "medical doctors" are NOT in favor of any of the "supplements" on TV.  They simply say...exercise, eat better, drink lots of water and get plenty of sleep.  In other words, no free ride.... just like "they" say don't take the"weight loss" shots that are NOT meant for weight loss, but that make the pharmaceutical industry $billions for the unanticipated side effect....of weight loss!

CONCLUSION:  I'm back to one of my old mantras which is....WHO'S THE LIAR?  BECAUSE SOMEBODY CERTAINLY IS.  This dovetails nicely with FOLLOW THE MONEY.

I'm looking forward to the Beer Summit on the 14th.

 


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