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12/28/23 06:50 PM #11937    

Mike Lorts

Richard,

Very funny but maybe too close to the truth.


12/28/23 08:48 PM #11938    

 

Michael Kelly

I guess Colorado got upset with me calling it the "Kangaroo State" and decided to put Trump back on the Ballot. Just hope that they also decided to take all the Pins out of the Trump Voodoo Doll. 


12/29/23 08:49 AM #11939    

 

Larry Johnson

Hi Katie, I am sorry to hear about your daughter. Yes, i would love to join your friends in January for drinks. Just let me know the details. Larry Johnson


12/29/23 09:31 AM #11940    

 

DeWitt Bacon

Richard, Excellent post, 12092. And I agree with Mik L's assesment. WOW! I'm agreeing with two lefties in the same post. However Richard, on your post before that on Lindsey Graham, I'm not to sure of that.


12/29/23 11:12 AM #11941    

Richard Deshong

I see that Lauren Boebert has decided she can’t win reelection in 2024 in her current Colorado district, so she’s moving to another, more conservative district where they don’t care how she may embarrass them. It should be an interesting campaign as she goes door to door “glad handing” all her new potential male voters.

DeWitt, what part of my post on Lindsey graham aren’t you sure of? Is it the direct quote he made on Fox News that is available for viewing online? Or is it the fact that he proposed a national ban on abortion last year, which is also available to be viewed online? Can you elaborate on what it is you take exception to?

Also, in your post 12047 you claimed Goldwater was criticized by the left for being a warmonger. Have you looked at the copy of page 67 of our Camelback High Class of `65 yearbook I sent you where he is quoted as calling himself a warmonger prior to the election? I happened to like Barry and would have voted for him had he not been a proponent of expanding America’s involvement in Viet Nam.


12/29/23 11:18 AM #11942    

Richard Deshong

Still more on aging.

At my age, rolling out of bed in the morning is the easy part. Getting off the floor is a whole other story.

How to parallel park. Park someplace else.

I spend a lot of time holding the refrigerator door open looking for answers.

How’s adulting going for you, you ask? Well, I turned on the wrong burner and I have been cooking nothing for about twenty minutes.

I like to make lists. I also like to leave them laying on the kitchen counter and then guess what’s on the list while at the store.

Billion-dollar idea. A smoke detector that shuts off when you yell “I’M JUST COOKING!”

Saw a store with a sign that read “We treat you like family.” Yup, not going there.

When I say, “the other day,” I could mean any time between yesterday and fifteen years ago.

Being a little older, I am fortunate to have someone call and check on me every day. He’s from India and is genuinely concerned about my car warranty.

It’s fine to eat a test grape in the produce section, but you take one bite out of a rotisserie chicken and it’s all “Sir, you need to leave.”

Turns out when you’re asked who your favorite child is, you’re supposed to pick one of your own. I know that now.

And this one is for you know who:

I’ve reached that age where my brain goes from “You probably shouldn’t say that” to “What the hell, let’s see what happens.”


12/29/23 04:16 PM #11943    

 

Michael Wetzel

Okay, let's see :

" terminate  a dangerous or unwanted pregnancy ". Dangerous, anybody can understand that, if a mother's life is in peril, or the fetus is dead...Unwanted, maybe the proper precautions should have been followed, in the first place. Or just abstaining from sex altogether. Only a socialist, is fond of homicide, murder, and slaying of a child. Like clinton stated, all the way to birth ! Like someone likes to quote, what would Jesus say, do ?......

" medical care for a transgender minor ".  I get it now, instead of sending a child to a psychiatrist, or a psychologist, therapist for treatment of an obvious mental condition, lets just mutilate them for the rest of their lives. And later in their lives, just to realise in horror, and shame, the monsters they have become. What would Jesus say, do ?.......

" The wrong library books ". Oh heck ya, lets let all our young children have access to degenerate books, with cartoon pictures, showing gays of every kind, in different sexual positions. All 2 to 8 year olds need this type of education, right. What would Jesus say do ?........

" woke ". Thats to stupid to even consider, everyone understands the significance and arrogance of this crap.....

" marriage equality ", " same sex marriage " . What did God ( Jesus ), have to say regarding this ?...........


12/30/23 05:40 AM #11944    

 

Frank Wiley

Richard, some good ones.


12/30/23 09:36 AM #11945    

 

DeWitt Bacon

Richard. The Goldwater/Johnson debits were 60 years ago, and both men died many years ago. GIVE IT A REST!

Lindsey Graham's words are often taken out of context, and many don't understand what he is saying. That includes many Republicans. Perhaps he could work on being a better communicator, but I think he is a good senator. I'm not going to debate you on this. We all have our opinions.


12/30/23 11:59 AM #11946    

 

Jim Coats

The following are snapshots of where we are as a country.  No debates here.  These are my opinions.  I am a person who, when he sees a car on fire, knows it MUST be put out.  No research, no debates, no dithering.

Not one "feminist" that I have seen has defended Israel and condemned the torture, rape and slaughter of Israeli women by Hamas.  

Democrats sent more troops and armament to arrest Roger Stone than they sent to defend Benghazi.

Chelsea Clinton got out of college and "landed" a job at NBC paying $900K/yr while Hillary flies around the country railing against white privilege.

Maxine Waters opposes voter ID laws.  She thinks they are racist....but you need to have a photo ID to attend her town hall meetings.

And just like that....Poof....democrats went from being against foreign interference in our elections to allowing non-citizens to vote.  It's going to get worse if the radical left has its way.

Trump Related:

Russia donated $0.00 to the Trump campaign.  Russia donated $145million to the Clinton Foundation, but Trump was the one investigated.

Nancy Pelosi invited ILLEGAL ALIENS to the State of the Union address.  President Trump invited VICTIMS OF ILLEGAL ALIENS to the State of the Union address.

Bill Clinton paid $850K to Paula Jones to make her go away.  I do NOT recall the FBI raiding his lawyer's office.

Double standards, eh?  I could go on.......

 

 


12/30/23 02:17 PM #11947    

Richard Deshong

My contacts in Israel are telling me the protests over the war are getting stronger and stronger and most of the Israeli population want an immediate cease fire in exchange for Hamas releasing the balance of the hostages. They also want Netanyahu to resign as Prime Minister.

Turns out for the past fifteen years Israel has had a military policy they call “Mowing the grass.” During this period Israel never strived for a decisive victory in Gaza. While it could militarily defeat Hamas, Israel could not overthrow Hamas without risking the possibility that a more radical organization would govern Gaza. Nor did Israel want to be responsible for governing Gaza in a post conflict power vacuum. As such, Israel’s grand strategy became "mowing the grass" — accepting its inability to permanently solve the problem and instead repeatedly targeting leadership of Palestinian militant organizations to keep violence manageable.

Dealing with Hamas in Gaza put Israel in a strategic quandary: It needed to exert enough force to deter Hamas from attacking but not so much that it topples the regime. As one Israeli defense analyst put it, "We want to break their bones without putting them in the hospital."

The Israeli IDF knew prior to October 7, that Hamas was planning and attack, but they way underestimated the veracity of the attack and were caught completely off guard. With over 1,200 Israeli’s killed and several hundred more taken hostage they had no alternative to not only put Hamas in the hospital, but to then obliterate the hospital with them in it. So far, over 20,000 civilians, including over six hundred children, have died because of this miscalculation. Another four hundred Israeli soldiers have been killed by Hamas since the start of the war.

For more information on this policy and how it was developed, do a search on the words “mowing the grass” and “Rand.”

Even more stunning than “mowing the grass,” you may want to do another search on the phrase “did Netanyahu send money to Hamas.” You will see that Netanyahu was sending cash to Hamas right up to the moment they attacked on October 7, 2023.


12/30/23 02:21 PM #11948    

Richard Deshong

For those of you who posted how much you liked Bob Hope, you may want to do a search using 1225-XMAS-HEADER-unnamed.jpg bob hope. From there you can watch many of his specials on entertaining the troops at Christmas time.


12/30/23 03:21 PM #11949    

 

Jim Coats

Richard.  Your #12103 sounds eerily familiar.  This is why I hate (most) politicians and politics in general.  Anyone else think this sounds like "our" foreign policy??  Possibly reminiscent of 9/11?  FOLLOW THE MONEY!!

P.S.  You have contacts in Israel??   My best contact is Fareed at the Circle K in Cave Creek.


12/30/23 04:07 PM #11950    

 

Mary Powers (Evans)

Thank you to those who participated in the peaceful interlude for awhile.  I enjoyed the Christmas/holiday greetings, sharing Christmas activities (David, Jim), jokes, memories (Katie, Frank, Dennis, Jim), interesting movies (Mike K), and family updates, both happy (Nancy) and sad (Katie).  I think we've discovered something most of us have in common--fondness for Bob Hope and also "old age" jokes.  We also have in common hate of cancer, and, regardless of political positions, have offered Katie our support for her daughter and their journey through this together.  
 
Since we've reverted to controversial topics, I'm responding to Mike W's comment in 12099 about sending a transgender minor to a psychiatrist or psychologist for treatment. Maybe someone who is more knowledgeable than I am can chime in, but it is my understanding that the AMA, APA, and WHO do not consider transgenderism in itself a mental illness. Thus therapy might be different than envisioned by people who believe it is a mental condition.  People who are transgender do not immediately obtain gender affirming surgery, at least at the Cleveland Clinic.  They must live fulltime as their self-affirmed gender for more than one year, have undergone cross-sex hormone therapy for at least one year, and have letters of support for surgical transition from two mental health professions.  Gender Affirming Surgical Services | Cleveland Clinic   Also according to a 2021 meta study, less than 1% of people receiving gender-affirming surgery have regrets (I admit I didn't read it all, but the Results and Conclusions indicate that). Regret after Gender-affirmation Surgery: A Systematic Review and Meta-analysis of Prevalence - PMC (nih.gov)  I'm getting all this from the web, so I hope this is correct, but the sources seem reputable. As to what would Jesus do, we can only speculate, since I don't think he ever addressed transgenderism.  Thus we can have differing opinions, but my personal view is that he would say "love thy neighbor."

12/30/23 04:39 PM #11951    

Richard Deshong

I would say you can’t make these things up, but evidently you can. Because I do like to do research, I submit the following:

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In 1996, the U.S. Congress passed a law prohibiting noncitizens from voting in federal elections, including elections for the U.S. House, U.S. Senate and presidential elections. This does not apply to elections at the state and local levels.

No state constitutions explicitly allow noncitizens to vote in state or local elections. As of June 2023, seven states specified that noncitizens may not vote in state and local elections: Alabama, Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Louisiana, North Dakota, and Ohio.

The District of Columbia and municipalities in three states allowed noncitizens to vote in local elections as of June 2023.

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Clinton personally paid Paula Jones to settle a public lawsuit after an election. 

Trump secretly funneled money through his lawyer to pay Stormy Daniels before the 2016 presidential election. His lawyer pleaded guilty to crimes tied to his role in arranging the payments. Legal experts said the Manhattan district attorney might argue that Trump falsified business records or violated campaign finance law in the process.

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In the predawn hours of Jan. 25, more than a dozen FBI agents raided Roger Stone's home in South Florida and took into custody one of President Trump's closest longtime confidants.

Law enforcement agencies often conduct early-morning arrests or raids with large numbers of officers and tactical equipment. Sometimes they even do so with guns a blazing.

Ambassador Chris Stevens was specifically warned of potential attacks on the embassy in Tripoli and, like all other embassies in the Middle East at the time, was told to plan for additional security, which he did not do. He then proceeded to make a last-minute trip to Benghazi to meet with a group of Libyans who were working with the USA to support change in the area. He chose to take only two private contractor security personnel on his trip.

Despite persistent accusations against President Obama, Hillary Clinton, and Susan Rice, ten investigations—six by Republican-controlled Congressional Committees—did not find that they or any other high-ranking Obama administration officials had acted improperly.

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Speaking about the Hamas attacks on women, on November 30, the National Organization for Women (a feminist organization)  issued a press release in which national president Christian F. Nunes said “rape must never be part of a battle plan” and condemned the “deafening silence” around “these widespread crimes against humanity.” 

Planned Parenthood released a statement on December 5, that read: “On October 7, Hamas unleashed a brutal attack in Israel, killing over one thousand civilians, sexually assaulting women and girls, and kidnapping over 200 people, many of whom remain captive.”

On December 6, the organization founded by the playwright and activist V (formerly known as Eve Ensler) to fight violence against women, posted the following statement on its website concerning the October 7, attacks by Hamas: “We know how rape and sexual assault is used as a weapon of war and we have always unequivocally condemned it wherever it has happened, whenever it has happened. And we do so now.”

The next day, the Women’s Media Center issued a statement condemning Hamas for “sexualized violence.”

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During her failed campaign for President Hillary Clinton did answer a lot of questions about white privilege. Here is a typical response she gave:

“White Americans need to do a better job of listening when African Americans talk about the seen and unseen barriers that you face every day. We need to recognize our privilege and practice humility, rather than assume that our experiences are everyone’s experience.”

Shortly after Chelsea Clinton, the daughter of former President Bill Clinton and Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, completed her master’s degree at Columbia's Mailman School of Public Health in 2010, she landed a rather lucrative job. However, that job didn't pay her $900,000 per year, nor did it involve working for her parents, as was widely claimed online.

Chelsea Clinton was hired by NBC News as a special correspondent in 2011. She was reportedly paid $600,000 a year by the network until 2014, when she switched from an annual salary to a month-to-month contract due to the possibility of her mother's running for president:

As a full-time cohost on NBC, Jenna Bush has an estimated yearly salary of $4 million.

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On November 13, 2019, an anonymous Facebook post read:

"Russia donated 0$ to Donald Trump. Russia donated $145.000.000 to the Clinton Foundation."

You may want to check out Jesse Benton, a GOP strategist, who was convicted and sent to prison for illegally funneling funds from Russia to the Trump campaign.

Also, a 2017 Reuters investigation found that Russian elites invested tens of millions of dollars in Trump’s buildings. Among the buyers were several politically connected businesspeople, but none were from Putin’s inner circle.

As for the donation to the Clinton Foundation (not the Clinton campaign fund), the bulk of the money, about $131 million, came from Frank Giustra — a businessman from Canada, not Russia.

Giustra sold off his entire stake in Uranium One, a Canadian company, to a Russian mining company in 2007, three years before Clinton became secretary of state.

Despite four years of discussion and analysis of the matter—as well as an FBI investigation — no evidence of any quid pro quo or other wrong-doing surfaced. Numerous Republican politicians and pundits, including President Donald Trump, insisted that the Clinton-Uranium One story was the "real" Russian scandal, rather than the matters for which the Trump administration was investigated. The Washington Post reported in January 2020 that an additional Justice Department investigation into the matter, initiated after Donald Trump took office in 2017, was winding down after finding nothing worth pursuing.

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If you see a car on fire and you are standing next to it with an empty gas can and a book of matches, you may not want to draw attention to yourself.


12/30/23 04:56 PM #11952    

Richard Deshong

Jim, check out Gilat Satellite Networks, Ltd. It's an Israeli company that spun off an American division and for whom I worked as Vice President of Operations. Besides working side by side with their American based employees, all former citizens of Israel and many of whom have returned to take the battle to Hamas, I made numerous trips to Israel and had the opportunity to get to know all their senior management, including the founders. All their employees at one time or another were members of the Israeli IDF, and the senior executives were generals. To this day I am still friends with many of them and find myself communicating with them via e-mail when I have questions concerning situations in Israel.

I realize you may see Fareed at Circle K more often than I communicate with my Israeli friends, but then I don’t drink.


12/30/23 05:19 PM #11953    

Richard Deshong

Feeling Older?

The Beatles split 53 years ago.

The movie Wizard of Oz is 83 years old.

Elvis has been dead for 46 years. He’d be 88 today.

Michael Jackson’s Thriller video is 39 years old.

Mickey Mantle retired 53 years ago.

The movie Saturday Night Fever is 45 years old.

The Ed Sullivan show ended 50 years ago.

The Corvette turned 69 years old this year.

The Mustang is 58.


12/31/23 01:01 AM #11954    

 

Michael Kelly

As to "What Jesus would do" if you don't read the Bible, you are no more an authority as any other heathen, so I doubt it worth the reading your opinion. Michael W. you are an Expert and I applaud you for your very clear Comments.

As to Truth in Advertising it seems to  me that Calling the Mutilation of a Child's Genitalia is really not honestly and truthfully labelled as Gender Affirmation Surgery or Intervention, it just sounds like a Criminal Assault on a Minor with the  Intent to Commit Greivous Bodily Harm. Then of course, I also saw many years ago a Poster which read "If it feels good, just do it" and above the Slogan or Cute Remark were two Hippopotami up to their eyes in Mud, very Filthy looking Mud, in some African "Pond".Your perspective on how you see, and consider things is very often influenced by what you want to believe, or have happen, but not the Truth. Gender Affirmation Surgery is nothing more, or less than a particularly Heinous Felony and creates Victims with lasting Psychological Harm. But as Richard put it some posts ago GYHOOYA. And no, I don't want to be in your "Club"! As Clint Eastwood said  I hate everybody equally. 

I think if certain Israelis are demanding a Cease Fire against the Palestinians, that in a few months or a year, if they get their way, they will have to learn the vey Sad Lesson that they should be learning now, but apparently are not learning. You cannot make Deals with the Devil, even if you think it will make you play better Guitar.Giving into  "World Opinion" as to how to deal with Hamas is really a Bad Deal, and I am not even Jewish. Its every bit as STUPID as giving billions of Dollars to Iran so that they can siphon the money off to all the Alphabet Soup Groups of Muslim Savages that Hate Jews and Christians just so you can "Brag about how you Formed a New Peace in the Middle East" who the Hell are you trying to  kid anyway, it is the same as sending your kid to Harvard and having them come home for Summer Vacation and still believe in Right and Wrong, and That it is Wrong to Rape, Burn Alive, gouge the eyes out of, Bake Babies in Front of, and all the List of Horrific Things Hamas did on Oct. 7, 2023. If you think this You Have Lost Your Way. But I am just writing this for the Record. Like Clint Eastwood Said!!!!!!!!  Now go to Bed, get some Sleep, who knows what you may wake up to, tomorrow!


12/31/23 06:43 AM #11955    

 

Frank Wiley

It seems to me, based on all the comments over the years from him and because Netanyahu is a "Hawk", that if he suspected a Hamas terrorist event he would have been more prepared for it.  I watched Hillary's Benghazi testimony and I distinctly remember that the Ambassador had asked her for additional security and didn't receive it.  I also remember that one of her answers to a question was, "At this point, what possible difference does it make?"  


12/31/23 07:06 AM #11956    

 

Jim Coats

Deshong.  Your #12107 is about 2 times as wide as all other posts.  Whatever you're doing different, STOP IT.  It's aggravating....but if that's your little goal, by all means, keep it up.  NWMFT!!

Oh, and thank you so much for telling us you were vice president of something.  Maybe we should all disclose our titles and previous income.

We have a National Security Emergency at our Southern Border.  This is the FIRE I mentioned and it needs to be extinguished, but Biden is too far up the a** of his handlers and he will not act.  You had better pray that these military age illegals don't find their way to Avondale, or wherever you live.  By NOT securing the border, Biden has violated the law and his primary duty to America.  He should be prosecuted and removed from office.  This is why I say....

SECURE THE BORDER!!  ENFORCE THE LAW!!  AMERICA FIRST!!  PARENTS RIGHTS!!  FOLLOW THE MONEY!!

 

 

 


12/31/23 07:17 AM #11957    

 

Frank Wiley

Sunday Funnies--1. If I run in the front of a slowly moving car I will get tired••••••••••but if I run behind it I will get exhausted!  (I can hear you liberal/progressives say, "Not if it's electric.")  2. A Teacher once told me I would never amount to much if I continued to procrastinate.  I told him•••••••••••••"You just wait!"  3. Joe Biden said, "Every morning I fall off the same Bike••••••••••••••• It's a vicious cycle."  4. The word "Incorrectly" is spelled ••••••••••••••"Incorrectly" in every Dictionary.  5. I've been experimenting with breeding racing Deer.  People are accusing me though of••••••••••just trying to make a "fast Buck"!  6. The other day I yelled into a Colander and••••••••••••••••••• strained my voice!    Happy New Year!!  Don't call me••••••••••••I'll be sound asleep at Midnight.  

 


12/31/23 08:44 AM #11958    

 

Patty Meyers (Anderson)

"There will come a time when the rich own all the media, and it will be impossible for the public to make an informed opinion."  -  Albert Einstein - about 1949.


12/31/23 10:19 AM #11959    

 

DeWitt Bacon

Just a few comments on some of the posts above:

Jim, your observations are totally correct in post 12101. And I wouldn't worry too much about Richard. Richard just does what Richard does. 

Mary, I enjoy most of your comments but would like to know how you define mental illness. I know what the shrinks say, and I know what the AMA says, but I don't necessarily agree with them. These 'experts' are wrong in many cases. Sometimes on purpose to support progressive ideas.

Michael K. What would Jesus do? He would do what he is doing now. Watching man govern himself into the destruction of the earth and waiting for his Father to tell him, "OK, SON. IT'S TIME TO GO DOWN AND SAVE WHAT IS LEFT." Man cannot govern himself. Some may make futile attempts, but none will be successful. God will rule. "RESISTANCE IS FUTILE. The Borg

Patty, the wisdom of Albert Einstein cannot be debated.


12/31/23 11:19 AM #11960    

Mike Lorts

 

Jim,

You think Richard is boasting when he stated he was a vice-president but I recall you mentioned numerous times your corporate positions. I see that you now adding your posts are only your opinions. I remind you the opinions are like a**holes, everyones got one.

Frank,

It appears you are conflicted. You consistently mention the folly of owning a EV although I recall you saying you own a EV and you installed solar. Does owning a EV make you a liberals?

Patty,

I agree that those billionaires are controlling how we get our news. The Murdochs and  Sinclair are indoctrinating us daily.
 


12/31/23 11:26 AM #11961    

 

Michael Kelly

HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE. DeWitt  You hit a Home Run, Jesus is doing it and hopefully it will be Time for the Change. Good Sunday Funnies Frank. Coats, we are going to have to set up a Best Curmudgeon contest. It's past time Lol. Keep up the good work everyone, I may not agree with everything you say, but at least it lets me know if you are Friendly or Foe, and the Location is easy to find with the Sites address lists. 

STAY SAFE, AND LOOK FOR WHEEL CHAIR FRIENDLY LOCATIONS AS I DO FOR THE TIME BEING. I DID SEE A SIGN THAT SAID BELOW THE BLACK SILHOUETTE OF A PERSON IN A WHEELCHAIR FACING SIDEWAYS, ON A YELLOW BACKGROUND, "CURMUDGEON FRIENDLY" 


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