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Frank Wiley

There have been classmates who have mentioned that they fear Trump will be "Autocratic".  The reason I have brought this up is  because the new car lots are loaded with a surplus of EV's that they can't sell and those EV's wouldn't be sitting there if the Biden administration hadn't "Autocratically" demanded that the U.S. Car Manufacturers build, and then force the Dealers to take those vehicles even though there is LITTLE DEMAND for them.  It's kind of like Hitler telling the Germans, "You will buy Volkswagens!"

Michael Kelly

With all the  Riotous behavior I see from Idiots and worse demonstrating in support of AntiSemitism and the hypocrisy of the current Administration in daily "hedging their Bets' by saying its right for the Jews to defend themselves BUT ETC ETC ETC sickens me. How can any other Government have any Respect for the USA with this pandering to Moslems who hate us and Israel so badly they publically call us the Great Satan and wanting to Nuke us ASAP, its hard for me to believe these people have our best interests at Heart. To Hell with their Cowardice. I have a 3 Word Cure that if We live by it, and so does the Rest of the World, there will no longer be War in the Middle East. 

QUIT HATING JEWS.

Frank Wiley

So Kamala was at the International Climate Conference and said the U.S. is giving another 3 Billion $ to the International Climate Fund.  The problem is that  3 Billion giveaway is Unconstitutional!!  The U.S. House of Representatives did not approve it.  Biden is pulling that money out of the money that was designated for Infrastructure.  

DeWitt Bacon

Dennis, I loved your post.

I see that all our liberal friends have left us again. I guess they got tired of us having fun at their expense. LOL. I'm sure they will be back when the 2024 election gets closer.

Greg Watkins

Mary Powers (Evans)

Frank, per 11738, could you please provide a reference that the $3 billion will come from the Infrastructure fund.  From what I could find online in a brief search, it was a pledge for 2024 - 2028 and would have to be approved by Congress.  Thank you.  

Frank Wiley

John Kerry was at the Conference and said that's where it's coming from.  And how can Kamala commit money that hasn't been approved anyway?

Michael Kelly

The reason that biden wholesale misdirects Billions of Dollars in American Tax Dollars, is because the Democratic Majority, along with  RINO Republicans in the Senate, and Democrats in the  House of Reps let biden get by with it. And lets face it, mostly it is pure laziness on the part of our elected Representatives that allows this to take place. This brings me to a Point not often discussed.

When Donald J. Trump brought  his boisterous and self aggrandizing personality to the Presidency, the calloused Left, were disdainful of his abiliity to "lead the Country" after all, he had never done much but build big Hotels, and make billions of dollars doing it, but about the intricacies of "Running a Corrupt Government Machine" what the Hell would he know, In the Democrats collective minds he was a Boisterous Buffoon, and they could domiate him no sweat, he would never get in the Club an outsider and they could twist him in knots. I remember James Comer bragging  about duping General Michael Flynn into a meeting and then setting him up for Charges to bring him down. The smugness of Comer was truly disgusting and his arrogance was on full display. Remember what happened to Gen. Michael Flynn, he eventually was pardoned because the Federal Judge that presided over his "Trial" was so biased that his Rulings went up on Appeal and he got hat handed to him. It cost Gen. Flynn his Retirement, and Life Savings however. This was not isolated, the Democrats are habitualy Ignorers of Truth for the sake of a Win. This is what the 2 and 1/2 years of the Trump Investigation was all about, and 40 million dollars later, the Trump Admin. was found free of so called Russian Collusion, but if you talk to a Democrat today, right now, 95 percent of them still think that Trump is an Evil Man etc etc etc.

So now he is running for office again or so statistic seem to indicate, and the Democrats and many Republicans have still got a :Jacket hung on Trump as if "he must have done Something Wrong so he Can't run For Office" Yesterday, I wrote the 3 word Solution to the Middle Eastern RCF that belongs to biden and John Kerry for giving iran 6 billion dollars so that Iran could immediately Fund Hamas Savages with the Attack on Israel on Oct. 6, remember  QUIT HATING JEWS.

Well, today's 4 word admonishment is to Relieve the Pressure on the American Electorate, which contains people who are too timid to make up their own minds because their neighbors might look down on them, when their opinion is probably more sound as an inspiration to Vote is MORE SANE THAN THE NEIGHBORS, AND THAT IS this!

QUIT HATING DONALD TRUMP

Frank Wiley

Mike K.-- Are you sure it was James Comer?  James Comer is running the Hunter investigation.  Thanks!!

Richard Deshong

Mike Kelly,

Why not just stop hating - period.

Richard Deshong

DeWitt, I've finished reading Cruz's book. How are you doing on Prequel? 

Richard Deshong

Greg, I seem to remember something about Congress committed funds for the Defense budget being used to build more border wall. Maybe the same rational is being used.

Richard Deshong

Frank, so the big three US auto makers are being forced into making EVs by an evil president.

A start up EV maker growing to have a valuation greater than all three US auto makers combined and selling every car it can make had nothing to do with their decisions. The fact that almost every European country has said they are banning cars with internal combustion engines by 2035 didn't figure at all into their decisions to grow their EV business. With China coming on strong with EVs they didn't fear losing another major market by waiting to see how things pan out.

Who knew the big three were run by such pansies and took their marching orders from the oval office.

Jim Coats

"Elk can't count."  Name the movie and the actor who said it.  First one who gets it right gets the rest of the pizza I had left over from yesterday.

Sunday Funnies:

The reason politicians try so hard to get re-elected is because they would hate to make a living under the laws they have passed.

Women and cats do as they please and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea.

Ho, Ho, Harrumph!!

Bill RIHS

Dennis, this is for you.

Dennis Moran

Bill.

Thanks........many a kid pissed themselves when confronted by zorros angels lol

Frank Wiley

Interesting that Joe Biden had a meeting of the EV Manufacturers and didn't invite Elon Musk.  Could it be that it's because Elons factories aren't Union?  The first time Trump ran for President we had the Russian Hoax.  This time we're getting the "End of Democracy" Hoax!!  Trump has said some outrageous stuff but he can't do them.  Can you say impeachment?  Probably, because you heard it before!!

Michael Kelly

Bill Rihs  That is very funny. Dennis /i now fully appreciate why The Wraiths of the Black Habits are not just fictional Movie Characters. Remember John Belushi and that other Clown Bill Ackroyd in that Movie where they were on a Mission from god. It was that or Die.

DeWitt Bacon

Bill R. What a frightening spectacle. It makes me glad my family wasn't Catholic. 

Richard. Good to see you back. I have to admit that I haven't gotten that far into Prequel, with my eyesight and the fact that I don't have much time for reading. I haven't even finished Cruz's book. But I am working on them as much as I can. I hope you don't expect me to read all the books Rachel recommends at the beginning of her book. But if you are back now I will try to read more so we can debate the two books. Thanks for your patience.

Richard Deshong

Frank, are you speaking of the April 2, 2023 zoom meeting Biden had with all US car manufacturers, including Musk as Tesla's representative, or the recent meeting held with the Association of American Car Dealerships, an organization that Tesla doesn't belong because they do not use dealerships?

Richard Deshong

Despite what some people believe, solar power, wind power, and EVs are the future.  For those among you who think pushing renewable energy and EVs in America is a fool’s mission, let me provide a short primer on the history of solar panels.  Jim, it’s okay if you take a nap instead of reading my thesis.

Mankind has been using the sun to produce energy since as early as the 7^th century B.C. and even harnessed it to use in warfare.  The first known solar collector was invented in 1767 and was used as a means of cooking on expeditions.  The process of using sunlight to make electricity was discovered in 1839.  In the1860s a French company used solar energy to make electricity, but a drop in the price of coal made it too expensive and they stopped.  Then in 1883 a solar array using selenium was built in New York city, but it also turned out to be too expensive when compared to coal, so it too was dropped.  Then in 1918 the process to make silicon wafers was invented and by the 1950s was being used by Bell Labs to make the first know silicon based solar wafers.  In 1970 Exxon Mobil (yes, the large US oil producer) developed an affordable solar cell and in 1982 the first large scale solar energy farm was up and running in California.  Around that same time concerns over climate change and the depletion of known (at that time) oil reserves sparked a race for dominance in the solar energy market.

In 1997 an American entrepreneur built a prototype production machine to make silicon solar wafers and functional solar panels.  With limited cash he approached first the states of Ohio and California asking for incentives to build manufacturing plants in their states to mass produce solar panels.  Both states turned him down.  But an investor from Spain heard of his process and made an introduction to Spain’s government who agreed to provide the necessary land, tax benefits, and other assistance required to get a new business up and running.  Along with user incentives, solar energy became such a big hit in Spain that soon Germany and France were both knocking on the door to get solar panel plants built in their countries too.  With these successes the American again asked several US states for help opening plants in America and was again turned down.

Then in 2006 two brothers, Peter and Lyndon Rive, at the suggestion of their cousin (along with some financial assistance), Elon Musk, bought Solar Cells, Inc., the solar panel business, and changed its name to First Solar which would become the largest company in the solar panel market.  Even then, no US company wanted to help expand their manufacturing in America, so they eventually struck a deal with China where today nearly 80% of all solar panels sold in the world are made - a world where almost all countries are on a quest to reduce their dependence on fossil fuels and solar energy is their primary means of doing so.

It is often said that we must learn from our mistakes, or we are doomed to repeat them.  Well, I for one don’t want to see America become a lesser nation because we let the naysayers convince enough people that the manufacturing and selling of EVs  If we want to compete with China and maintain our global economic dominance, we must act like we do and push new technologies.  If you don’t agree with that philosophy, I’ve got some stocks in a buggy whip business I’ll sell you.

Dennis Moran

DeWitt, being Catholic has been an experience and has enriched my sense of humor. The nuns are such a core of parochial schooling..its funny I don't have nightmares but im sure having a pastor that shouts and rock and rolls during his sermons would have me in fear as well.  Im sure it was tougher for girls growing up but I have to admit I am in the habit of washing my hands many more times than a normal person would do.  Unlike Prostestant churches we have an enormous amount of bling.Going to church with my classmates involved boys sitting with boys and girls sitting with girls and the nuns would be in the very back  At no time would the priests sit with us..The nuns had their enemies and funny now but then was Harry Sanchez asking sister if nuns had babies...brave...very brave...still waiting for them to answer the question.  But, those nuns have moved onto other pastures...I think they bury them in Minnisota..so if your in st. paul or elsewhere in the state don't go out at night.If you see one or more just remember Harrys question use it to escape.  I never saw one sick and they would teach to a class of 60 or more kids so now you know why the were tough.  Sadly, I still haven't seen the horor movies Nun and Nun II.  Marines are tough but Nuns push tough to other levels; its 120 outside and nuns don't sweat...Nun raise sand flees, their fatigues are with flowing robes.  They wear black shoes that are so small that if they fart; their ankles swell up..  One of our classmates Henry Hudson actually halled off and hit one of zorros own.  He left our school suddenly around 5th grade and was exhiled to a military academy before he came back to our freshman class at Camelback.  

It is true nuns gluided across the floor just like in the Bues Brothers Movie 

Be careful the nuns are still around us and they are prepaired; having taken, an extra minor in human behavior at the Nunery graduate school. they are sweet,.....Watch out tho, they have been known to frequent boys rest rooms...thats why I wash my hands alot; I heard they are afraid of water.  And Catholic Boy Scouts are prepaired to defend you.

Dennis

Richard Deshong

Mike Kelly, back on November 17, in post 11,639, I promised you I would get back to you on some of the other points you made in your post 11,638.  Being a man of my word, here we go:

You cite Margret Sanger, a woman born in 1879 and who died in 1966, as if she were one of today’s leading proponents of abortion rights.  But you failed to mention that during her entire career as a woman’s rights advocate, she championed birth control and took pains to make a distinction between birth control and abortion.  And, as a nurse, she refused to participate in performing abortions.  You were correct in your claim that she did support negative eugenics, but she was hardly alone in her beliefs with many Americans industrialists, politicians, and even the Catholic church supporting, and even practicing eugenics, during her lifetime.  Thank goodness we have been able to get past that dark position here in America.  I am glad to hear that you don’t disagree that in certain select circumstances abortion right up to the time of birth may be the correct course of action.  Like when it is agreed with doctors that both the mother and child would die if the birth continued, and the decision to save the mother’s life is chosen.

I ask you how you came to the decision that I have made an emotional decision about the Supreme Court’s decision to make abortion a state’s right.  Can you refresh my memory and point to anything I have posted that led you to that statement?  And while you’re at it, can you explain to me why all but one contender (Chris Christy) for the Republican Presidential nomination wants to pass a federal ban on abortion rather than letting it continue to be a state’s right issue.  You may even want to give us your thoughts on why since the court’s decision every state that has voted to add a woman’s right to an abortion in its constitution has resulted in the voters of those states overwhelmingly choosing to do so.  If it is a state’s issue shouldn’t the state’s voters’ wishes be accepted?

There a still a few other issues from your post 11,639 I want to address, but for now, I’ll leave you with this last observation:

In your post you stated “…..you condescendingly refer to MAGA supporters as being influenced by some sort of mass brainwashing or some such nonsense. You make claims against MAGA supporters based upon your own conjecture. You have no factual basis for your statements.”  In fact, Mike, you are one of the main reasons for my belief.  My god man, you’re a lawyer!  How else do you explain that not one iota of proof has been presented to the courts in support of the “Big Lie”?  Or that after six years and four federally funded investigations led by far-right politicians not one charge was brought against Hillary Clinton over either Benghazi or her misuse of a personal cell phone?  Or more recently, how many times does Jim Jordan need to wipe the egg off his face over the Hunter Biden investigation?  If he has the smoking gun on the laptop release it.  If he doesn’t, shut the hell up.  If Hunter is guilty, let him explain himself to the American public in a televised hearing rather than a closed-door inquisition.  I could go on and on with similar make-believe things the Freedom Caucus rants about, but I just ask you if this constant making of accusations without actual proof isn’t a form of brainwashing, what do you call it?  It may even be that both sides of the political isle are guilty of making false accusations, but when will enough be enough?

Mike, perhaps I am a fool. But I can’t be fooled.  Remember, MAGA also stands for Make Argentina Great Again and they even have the red hats to prove it.  Oh yeah, and they are run by a narcissistic  authoritarian dictator. Sound familiar?

Dennis Moran

Just curious.....Richard DeShong, how come your picture doesn't appear in your Non MGA collumm. have you gone so far to the left that your image hasn't caught up to the Message Forum????

Sorry, I'm leaving now to wash my hands...you know the story.

Dennis

Richard Deshong

Dennis, there are a lot of crazy people in our country today so I have chosen not to post my image, either from our year book or a more recent photo, to appear on the forum because someday I may wish to attend another Camelback High reunion or inadvertently come into contact with one of the gun loving, kill them all and let god sort it out contributors to this forum.  They may be packing and decide they've had enough of my beliefs and take me out, and I don't mean on a date.