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10/09/23 10:21 AM #11038    

 

Frank Wiley

Based on my malaria experience it sounds like Buzz continued working in Nam not realizing he had contracted it.  A Corpsman caught mine quickly so, even though I was pretty sick it didn't get critical.  Obviously Buzz's did.  I actually went back on Active Duty and almost completed my tour.     N.S.--De Santis and Vivek both say that they support Ukraine but want the money vetted that we're giving them.  I totally agree!!


10/09/23 10:40 AM #11039    

 

Frank Wiley

Another Democrat has come to their senses!!   Robert Kennedy has become an Independent.


10/09/23 10:58 AM #11040    

 

DeWitt Bacon

Jim. Re 11104

You force me to have to agree with you on every word. Unless, of course, you are going to tell me you made it up and it was just a joke.


10/09/23 11:32 AM #11041    

 

Jim Coats

DeWitt.  Good to see you on board.  No jokes, brother.  I try to speak my truth with conviction.  

Frank and Patty.  Well, well, well.  Something else in common....sorta.  I was somewhere in I Corps, I think and contracted a bad, shaky, sweaty fever.  I remember I was sent to Delta Med at Dong Ha....again, I think.... and treated there.  I was diagnosed with Fever of Unknown Origin (FUO) and actually was treated by an American (female) nurse.  First "Round Eye" I had seen since leaving Okinawa.  Anyhow, I was released after about one week and never had a problem again.  I do NOT know if it was actually malaria, but I have been "told" it was later by a Navy Corpsman.  The Dutchess says this may just explain a few things.

Patty.  If you and Buzz ever come to Phoenix, it would be good to get together, especially if Frank could attend.  I could picture you two at a Beer Summit with the rest of us reprobates.....not that you are a reprobate....Oh, God!  Where's the eraser or white out on this contraption!!

 


10/09/23 11:52 AM #11042    

 

Patty Meyers (Anderson)

Jim and Frank. Buzz was in the Northern I Corps near the laotian border, they had corpsmen but I don't think they had time to take care of anyone but the wounded.  When he started convulsing they packed him in ice and sent him to Great Lakes.  

Jim, sure sounds like malaria.

We would love to Beer Summit with the other reprobates, but I don't do Phoenix, except for reunions.  Buzz does go once in awhile to see his best friend who went to high school with us.  Do you remember Jim Nolles?  He is a year ahead of us.  Buzz and Jim go way back to Minnesota when they were 5 years old and have always been close.


10/09/23 05:48 PM #11043    

 

Frank Wiley

Trump approved the kill of Iranian Solamoni.----Israel wasn't attacked.  Trump approved the killing of Al Bagdadi (an Iranian proxy) ---Israel wasn't attacked.  Lyin Biden releases 6 Billion Dollars to the Iranians.----Israel is attacked.  It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see who had the best policy!!  


10/09/23 08:20 PM #11044    

 

Michael Kelly

Jim Coats  I agree wiith you it  is a waste of time to further debate with someone who contends, even seriously so, that the poor Hamas/Palestinions need to be able to slaughter Hundreds, even Thousands of Jews and wipe out their Country because that is the  only way to  assuage their deeply felt depression and rage over how they are oppressed to the point of total loss of HOPE AND THEREFORE THEY MUST BE ABLE TO VENT THEIR RAGE BY SLAUGHTERING HUNDREDS OFJEWS JUST TO GET SOME HOPE BACK. IF YOU ARE READING THIS AND THIS EQUATION OVER LOSS OF HOPE IS WHAT YOU SUPPORT  THEN YOU NEED HELP  You can try and couch it in jargon of the Left but the assertion is UNFORGIVEABLE.


10/09/23 11:58 PM #11045    

 

Michael Wetzel

When will those 'animals', ever learn not to mess with the BULL !!!! Go Israel..............


10/10/23 05:57 AM #11046    

 

Frank Wiley

I have been reading and Dissecting the United Nations Decision in 1948 to establish the Country of Israel.  The Country of Israel was attacked almost immediately after being formed in 1948 by the Radical Muslims and has been attacked many times since.  I say Muslims rather than Arabs because, let's face it, it's a religious issue.  If there is any blame about the establishment of the Jewish Country/Homeland it should lie at the feet of the U.N., not Israel.  It seems to me that Israel has been the Country that has had to retaliate when attacked and the conflicts have all been instigated by the Muslims!!  I don't want to speak for others that served in Vietnam but I felt differently about the NVA and the VietCong.  Basically the Geneva Convention lays out that there is a big difference between a Uniformed Army and any group fighting that is not uniformed are terrorists.  The VietCong were terrorists.  Based on the video I've seen, these Hamas fighters were all terrorists!!


10/10/23 07:52 AM #11047    

 

Frank Wiley

Israel Troops have just discovered in a Kabutz that had been taken over by the terrorists---the bodies of 40 babies murdered that were in a nursery.  Some with their heads cut off. 


10/10/23 08:03 AM #11048    

 

Jim Coats

I have been watching FOX News this a.m. and saw Israeli family survivors of the initial onslaught interviewed....and BTW....Lester Holt, NBC was one of the interviewers.  These family members....civilians.... are devastated.  They do NOT know what has happened to their "relatives" and friends and are crying out for help.  And, I think they know, they will PROBABLY not see their people again....nor will they likely hear directly from an Israeli or American government official as to their plight.  Too much carnage and devastation going on.

I am HEARTBROKEN watching this coverage and I know/imagine that if HAMAS/Hezbollah/Iran is watching, they will NOT show  any decency and release their captors unharmed.  Instead, they will continue to kill, capture, rape and torture innocents because that's what animals do.  When the time comes, they will try to leverage the hostages against Israel/USA and God help us if we fall for that again.  All the while, the terrorists continue to scream God is Great in Arabic.  They are as far from Godly as a human can be.

BUT, to the left on this Site....be sure to continue your rabid attack against American citizens during this horrific time because this clearly paints for all to see what despicable people you are.  This is a good opening for more de-unification.  Like HAMAS, you seem to see this as an opportunity to inflict more damage against YOUR ENEMIES, the so-called MAGA Trumpies, Conservatives, Republicans.....American citizens.  Please....do continue.  I, for one, expect it.  I would also point out that, as proclaimed by several members of the left, we are dealing with athiests and others who do NOT share the Christian values of the conservatives on this site.  I do NOT feel charitable toward these people and I know I will have to answer for that when I finally see my God.

I would also ask the conservatives on this site to back off with anything that could be considered a personal, individual by name attack against left wing classmates.  IT SERVES NO PURPOSE!  They are NOT listening.  Attack or deride the policies or results of our administration and the narrative of the left.  Go after the left wing philosophy. This is just my suggestion.

SECURE THE BORDER!!  ENFORCE THE LAW!!  AMERICA FIRST!!  PARENTS RIGHTS!!  FOLLOW THE MONEY!!  VOTE THE LEFT OUT!!  


10/10/23 09:00 AM #11049    

 

Frank Wiley

The Ahiatola (sp) in Iran has just come out and congratulated the planners of these terrorist attacks.  Keep in mind that he is watching these atrocities just like we are.


10/10/23 09:57 AM #11050    

 

Michael Kelly

Advocating or sympathizing with the murder of innocent children/adults/elderly just for the sake of so called Restoration of "Hope" or "Justifiable Revenge" because of years of oppression is not in anyway justifiable, or even human. if you are of this Ilk then live with it, but don't inflict it on the rest of us who are wanting to live in Peace. As Jesus said to an Apostle who wanted to engage in Violence to win a victory Jesus said to him "Get thee Behind me Satan". 


10/10/23 10:13 AM #11051    

 

Bill RIHS


10/10/23 10:32 AM #11052    

 

Bill RIHS

While we on this site throw labels around; either lefties or far right/MAGA/Trumpies. I would call myself a modern day citizen with more similar values to JFK(Democrat). Would anyone back in the day call these values far right conservative; close the border excepting to legal imagration, against abortion up to and including birth, lawlessness/no cash bail for multiple prior crimes, not spending more that your income, balanced journalism, and competent executive leadership far right values?


10/10/23 10:39 AM #11053    

 

Frank Wiley

Mike Pompeo (who was at first C.I.A. Director then Secretary of State) said that when Trump took office we were giving the Palestinians 200 million dollars in foreign aid.  Trump cut it off.  When Lyin Biden took office he immediately resumed the payment.  The Palestinians leadership has also called for the destruction of Israel.  I don't know if they called for the destruction of America but I would bet a bunch--that's what they thought.  


10/10/23 12:07 PM #11054    

 

Bill Kaehler

Could it be possible that the $6B Biden recently freed up to Iran for “humanitarian purposes only” and the Hamas invasion of Israel are unrelated?  You decide.


10/10/23 12:08 PM #11055    

 

Bill Kaehler

BR-  Nice job of describing your self-chosen ideology as a “modern day citizen”.  Those values you itemized used to be called “common sense” or “common decency”.  These days one has to list the specifics of those values or be labeled as one or more of the names you can be called by so called progressives, including things like MAGA (used as a name, used as a thing, used as a adjective . . . even though any dictionary you pick up will confirm that it is not a word.  You might also be called a racist, or a fascist.  Or maybe even a militant, misogynist, or homophobe.  All in the name of degrading the concept of making America great again.  If they think making America great again is a bad thing, one wonders what country (ies) they think should be made great again, if any.  Well, I guess I’m in the same progressive doghouse as you are.


10/10/23 12:38 PM #11056    

 

Frank Wiley

I am actually giving Biden credit for the good speech he gave just now.  Although he warned everyone of trying to exploit this situation.  My only criticism is that he didn't call out Iran.


10/10/23 06:08 PM #11057    

 

Frank Wiley

The Israelis don't need my advice but what I would do is force smoke into the tunnels with smoke grenades and blowers.  The terrorists will move away from the smoke.  Find out where it comes out.  Put troops at that point.  Then blow knock out gas into the tunnels.  Then enter the tunnels.  Prepare yourselfs, this hostage thing is not going to end well for the hostages!!  Israel has handled hostage situations completely differently than we have.


10/10/23 07:53 PM #11058    

 

Michael Kelly

SAVAGES NEED NO REASON TO  KILL, MAIM, BEHEAD, BURN ALIVE, AND DEMONSTRATE WHAT THEY ARE. THEY LEAVE  US WITH  ONE QUESTION. WHO DO WE WANT TO BE? 

UNLESS YOUR DAFT OR WILLFULLY STUPID, THEN YOU KNOW THAT IN THIS WORLD THERE IS A CAUSE AND EFFECT RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN EVENTS. THIS IS A RULE OF EVIDENCE. IT  IS GIVEN NO LESS WEIGHT IN A COURT OF LAW AS DIRECT EVIDENCE IS GIVEN IN A TRIAL. 

WHEN YOU PURPOSELY RELEGATE YOURSELF TO  A  PLACE WHERE YOU REFUSE TO ADMIT THE OBVIOUS, YOUR  OPINIONS SUFFER, AND YOUR HEADED FOR IRRELEVANCE.

IF BIDEN HAD NOT GIVEN MONEY TO IRAN, WOULD THE  HAMAS HAVE USED THEIR OWN RESOURCES TO MASSACRE ISRAELIS? MATCH YOUR ANSWER UP WITH SOME OF YOUR OWN BIASES THAT YOU EMBRACE. BE HONEST WITH YOURSELF NOW.

ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE PROUD OF WHAT THEY HAVE ACCOMPLISHED FREELY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT, WITHOUT BLAMING ANYONE ELSE?

DOES LIVESTREAMING SLAUGHTER ON INSTAGRAM AMOUNT TO BEING PROUD OF YOUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS, IF NOT, WHY DO YOU EXCUSE IT. SOME  OF OUR MOST EDUCATED AT HARVARD UNIVERSITY ARE ENCOURAGING HAMAS. EXCUSE THEIR STUDENT LOANS? OH YEAH

HAVE A GOOD SLEEP IF THAT IS WHAT COMES OF IT.


10/10/23 08:19 PM #11059    

 

Jim Coats

Mike Kelly.  Interesting post.  I'm on board.

You are a bit more introspective than I am most of the time.  Here's my solution.  Find Hamas and Hezbollah....kill them all....and let God sort it out.  There can be no apologies.  No cease fire.  No backing off.  There will be innocent casualties just like there were in Hiroshima/Nagasaki, Dresden, and from B-52 carpet bombing in Nam.  I grieve for the innocents...on all sides.

SECURE THE BORDER!!  ENFORCE THE LAW!!  AMERICA FIRST!!  PARENTS RIGHTS!!  FOLLOW THE MONEY!!


10/10/23 08:42 PM #11060    

 

Bill RIHS

I suggest if you believe the lecture and chief regarding "Trump lifting scansion on counties that sell oil to Iran", google it for the whole story.


10/11/23 06:22 AM #11061    

 

Frank Wiley

According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration Iran Crude Oil Production dropped in half (from about 4 million barrels a day to 2 million barrels a day) when Trump was President.  U.S. oil production went way up during that time.  Hence $2.27/gallon regular gas price.  Irans production is back up to about 4 million barrels a day under Lyin Biden.  So 2 million times $85/barrell equals 170 million a day.  Jake Sullivan, Lyin Biden's N.S.A said yesterday they haven't had any discussions for months with Iran about stopping their Nuclear Program.  So why release the 6 Billion.  What was in it for the United States?  To me, all it did was show weakness to an enemy who calls for our death!!


10/11/23 07:33 AM #11062    

 

Jim Coats

Yesterday, Rashida Tlaib, a Democrat member of the House and SQUAD MEMBER, was approached by Hillary Vaughn of FOX News and asked IF she will condemn the murder of children, elderly and the rape and murder of women in Israel.  She was asked several times as Tlaib scuttled off to the elevator in the House building.  Tlaib....a far left wing member of Congress....did not utter one word of condemnation.  In fact, she said NOTHING at all, but she did flash a look of hatred at Ms. Vaughn.  I personally watched it on FOX.  Be careful, democrats.  I know Tlaib acts like what you say a MAGA Republican looks like, but she isn't.  She's yours.

BTW!!!  Tlaib flys the Palestinian flag outside her office.  Disgraceful!  There is ONE FLAG....and that is THE AMERICAN FLAG.  This woman should be escorted out of the House....but our cowardly politicians don't want the putrid backlash.  That's where we are, people.

Recently, in a speech after a couple of days off, Biden DID proclaim support and loyalty to Israel in this war against radical Islamists (in Gaza, Lebanon, Syria and elsewhere).  Some say it was a good speech.  BUT, he did NOT condemn IRAN and its obvious connection to this horrific act of terror and he did NOT condemn the putrid anti-Semetic vitriol coming from the Squad who are members of his own party.  Part of the way does not cut it, Mr. President.  I am curious to see what our physical involvement is now that we know there are 14+ Americans dead (more than from the Afghanistan retreat) and 24+ Americans held hostage.  Getting out the checkbook, Mr. President?  I have little to no faith in Biden because I am looking in the rear view mirror....which I really hate to do.

I have said it MANY, MANY times.....I believe our most serious threat is our open border.  We have NO idea who has come through...where they are...and what they plan to do.  BUT, I will lay odds that some ARE in our country to do us harm.  Be vigilant.  Situational awareness should be at the front of your mind as you leave your house.

SECURE THE BORDER!!  ENFORCE THE LAW!!  AMERICA FIRST!!  PARENTS RIGHTS!!  FOLLOW THE MONEY....RIGHT TO THE OVAL OFFICE!!


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