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05/08/24 09:19 AM #13411    

Richard Deshong

The US is pumping so much oil the resulting natural gas has reached a point where the oil companies are paying customers to take it off their hands. The only alternative is to flare it off in the fields, which runs afoul of air pollution regulations and results in fines. At the same time, OPEC is meeting to consider further reducing their oil exports to keep prices from free falling. Ukraine is targeting Russian refineries, and their oil exports are suffering accordingly. Yet, as pointed out, gas prices remain high. But there are those among you that continue to believe it is the White House, and not the marketplace and big oil companies, that set the price at the pump.


05/08/24 09:53 AM #13412    

 

DeWitt Bacon

I might add one thing to Kelly's post 13617: Name one way we are better off now than we were four years ago. I can think of one or two ways. We can spend more time with our families at home now since we cannot afford to go anywhere, and many don't have jobs They cannot enjoy things they like to do, like going out to dinner or movies. And many are losing weight because they cannot afford to buy food. Four years ago we were establishing peace in the Middle East. We stopped sending money to Iran, which was sponsoring terrorists throughout the world, including Hamas. The economy was growing. Prices were stable. Israelis were living in relative peace. But today, shouts of "DEATH TO ISREAL" and "DEATH TO AMERICA" are acceptable, along with campus riots to those ends. Yes, we are so much better off today, right?


05/08/24 11:30 AM #13413    

 

Michael Kelly

Coats Your 13620 BINGO!!!! HOMERUN!!!!! Michael W.  Glad you and your Wife are getting better. COVID can have a Kickback so get all your strength back. 

Richard "Dick" DeShong is now trying to tell us the HIGH GAS PRICES ARE THE RESULT OF THE EVIL AMERICAN OIL COMPANIES SOMEHOW CONTINUE TO DEVELOP AND PUMP OIL AND GLUT THE MARKET DESPITE  HERR BIDEN'S SHUT DOWN OF ALL OIL PRODUCTION BEYOND WHAT WAS CURRENTLY BEING PRODUCED ON JANUARY 21, 2021 WHICH ALL THE PROGRESSIVES HAILED AS A NEW AGE FOR ELECTRICAL VEHICLES, IMPROVEMENT OF THE WORLD THREATENING CLIMATE CHANGE, AND PUNISHMENT OF THE RICH  EVIL CAPITALISTIC MYSOGYNIST PIGS WHO DON'T PAY THEIR "FAIR SHARE" (AS IF BIDEN HAS EVER KISSED EITHER END OF WHAT IS A FAIR SHARE). In short, or long (think Stormy) that would give him a working concept of what is a "Fair Share" 

I really like how things are sort of unwinding randomly about the "Deep State' seems like their whole little Kit Bag is falling apart like a Cheap Cardboard Suitcase in a driving Rain. You may not have a suitcase to keep your clothes dry in while you ride the Bus, but you'll have a hell of a lot of Kleenex for your Cold you caugfht while wainting at the  Bust Stop. 

The price for a gallon of gasoline here in California is at an all time high, and California charges you state Tax of Fifty one Cents per gallon, and with Federal and state Taxes and Impound or other Fees, is a whopping One Dollar and Eighteen Cents per Gallon. The worst thing is that we as a Sanctuary State have us State Residents giving ILLEGAL ALIENTS FREE FOOD, FREE COLLEGE TUITION, FREE MEDICAL CARE, FREE RENT, AND FREE UTILITIES  NO WONDER THEY FEEL LIKE THEIR  HOME AGAIN.


05/08/24 02:13 PM #13414    

 

Ron Hendrix

Patty, I've been in the same house for for 35 years so I would like to try Al's "old"address. Thanks RH


05/08/24 03:04 PM #13415    

 

Patty Meyers (Anderson)

Ron, check the Message Center, I sent the info there.  I've been in the same place for 30 years so there is a possibility that he is as unimaginative as we are.

Patty

 


05/08/24 06:07 PM #13416    

 

Frank Wiley

Beer Summit--Thursday, May 30th, The Vig on 40th Street at 4:30.  (Maybe we can avoid some traffic).  Thanks!!


05/08/24 06:19 PM #13417    

Katie Baribeau (Moore)

It looks like there is another patriotic Republican.  

Former House Speaker Paul Ryan says he's not voting for Trump: 'Character is too important'

(Yahoo Finance) Paul Ryan has no interest in giving Donald Trump another chance come November. The former House speaker told Yahoo Finance on Tuesday that he doesn't plan to vote for the former president, adding he would be writing in a Republican candidate instead. “Character is too important for me,” Ryan told us at the Milken Institute Global Conference. “[The presidency] is a job that requires the kind of character [Trump] doesn’t have.”

Thank you Paul Ryan for putting country before party.  


05/08/24 07:15 PM #13418    

Katie Baribeau (Moore)

Kelly, let's get one issue finished,  I don't "bare my soul" in this forum. I post what I think is correct either factually or in my opinion.  Since you haven't met me or ever engaged in a true discussion with me, you have absolutely no idea who I am, execpt that I am a proud Progressive and I intend to continue working for Progressive ideas.  In addition the only reason you can't except Richard for being a Conservative is because he doesn't walk lock step with trump, a requirement in the trumpie party.  

trumpies trying to save people.  

What is the trumpie platform for medical insurance and support?  I have heard many times that trump has a plan, where is it?

What is the support for children.  Even though the trumpies are in favor of forced birth they certainly don't want to do anything after that birth.  SNAP payments that would take food away from more than one million low income people, trumpies against.  trumpies are prepared to sink the child tax credit bill as of April 1, 2024.  This benefits about 16 million children in low income households.  As of November 13, 2023 House trumpies threaten the Public Education and Opportunity for Young People bill in the House.  The trumpies want to vastly cut support for economically disadvantaged students and eliminate important programs in the K-12 education, youth workforce development and higher education spheres.  The trumpie bill also eliminates funding for Title II-A of the ESEA which provides funding for preparing, training and recruiting high-quality teachers, principles and support staff.  etc. etc.

As far as the price of gasoline which all you trumpies push in our faces constantly, here is some information.  Four years ago we were entering the Covid epidemic.  People were driving less.  Supply and demand down equals lower prices.  Even at the lower prices the oil companies were making money. 6/30/20 earnings $43.818B, 6/30/21 earnings 41.529B, 6/30/22 earnings $91.013B, 6/30/23 earnings 104.159B.  These earnings are in addition to tax payments that have dropped to 3% over the past 5 years on massive cuts passed under........you guessed it, trump.  In addition to that, Exxon CEO's pay rose a whopping 52% in 2022.  So gas pricing is based  on corporate greed.  Yes, corporations for the most part support the Republicans, because the Repubicans give them whatever they want and they turn it into lots of money for the management.  They get very rich at the expense of the middle class.  It is called trickle up economics.  There used to be ethics classes in most business schools, not so much anymore.  The trumpies of made financial ethics a thing of the past.  Capitalism depends on an amount of ethics to work...........enter the trumpies who say we will give tax breaks to the uttra rich and get it from the middle class and the poor.  So continue to whine about fuel prices, while you do it I play the world smallest violin.  The companies aren't evil, they fight for the bottom line and will take each and every break handed to them by the trumpies.  It's kind of human nature........but it would really be nice to find some ethics again, people who really wanted the US to grow and prosper.  This kind of makes me laugh, my grandson just bought a big GMC truck.  He traded in his Tesla because he was concerned about the heat and fires.  He went from electric to a gas guzzler getging 20-24 mpg.  He started to complain about gas prices because of the new truck.  I sat and talked with him.  He thinks he has the right to get whatever truck he wants, yes, and that he should be able to afford it........well, not so much.  No one gives you a free ride and the GMC monster will let him know that in real time.  He's the Republican in the family but he won't vote for trump, thankfully.

Yes, I am better off now than I was four years ago, I had 3 more relatives, they sadly perished from Covid when trump was still mishandling it.  (Listen to the trump tapes, he says it himself.). I have more money now, the stock market is doing quite well.  There are many reasons I'm better off, one just because trump isn't in the White House.  My dogs don't live in South Dakota so I think they are safe.  Yup, everything good here.  


05/08/24 07:21 PM #13419    

Katie Baribeau (Moore)

Richard, don't wait for you point by point debate....it will never happen.  I challenged Kelly to a debate over trumps love of dictators.....nope, can't do.  He can only say the words, not support them with facts.  Same with others.  Of course a debate is NWHFT for Coates.  I think I have the answer.  It's because once they move outside the trumpie talking points, they are totally lost.  As Coats put is in #13620, Biden is a Traitor, trump ain't. End of debate.  That's the lock step.  But I must admit it is easier.  You never have to think or research, you just get up every morning and think, WWtD.


05/08/24 07:47 PM #13420    

 

Michael Wetzel

Just saying something, doesn't make it factual. PROOF, PROOF, PROOF................


05/08/24 09:47 PM #13421    

 

Jim Coats

"Before you argue with someone, ask yourself, is that person mentally mature enough to grasp the concept of different perspectives?  Because if not, there is absolutely no point."  Helen Mirren

SECURE THE BORDER!!  ENFORCE THE LAW!!  AMERICA FIRST!!


05/08/24 09:55 PM #13422    

Richard Deshong

Paid $3.49 per gallon for gas in Kingman today. Damn Biden for ruthlessly enforcing the expensive blending of gas required in Maricopa County to reduce air pollution. A regulation put in place during the Bush administration.


05/08/24 11:38 PM #13423    

 

Michael Wetzel

Damn biden for our high gas prices! Especially since our blending of fuel doesn't start until June 14th...I also could have installed several pages of how President Bush was working dilitently, and tirelessly, to improve all the burdensome tasks associated with all phases of the fuel prices, etc.etc............

Excellent Jim... I'll remember that one.......................


05/09/24 05:54 AM #13424    

 

Frank Wiley

Some good news--Google: Climeworks       They build plants that reduce carbon.  Just opened a new one.  


05/09/24 08:10 AM #13425    

Richard Deshong

Maricopa County gets its gas from California refineries which changed to the summer blend on April 1. The rest of Arizona gets their gas from Texas refineries and aren't required to use a different blend.

In case you didn't recognize it, this is what is called "proof". You should try using it sometime.


05/09/24 09:51 AM #13426    

 

DeWitt Bacon

Does anyone know anything about Dennis? He suddenly disappeared from the forum. We may not have always agreed on things, but I loved his style and humor. I hope and pray that he is ok.


05/09/24 10:29 AM #13427    

 

Michael Kelly

Coats Your 13632 Hit the Nail on the Head. Apparently Biden wants to have Israel turn over its War against Hamas to Biden and Austin. This because he wants to abandon Israel if they are Insane enough to do so, then he can leave the Weapons shipments behind just like he did in Afghanistan. 

So Katie if Trump loves dictators do you think he will give them as much money as he supposedly gave Stormy Daniels? We know Biden has given Iran Billions, so he must love the Mullahs more than Trump loves Stormy. 


05/09/24 12:13 PM #13428    

Katie Baribeau (Moore)

Kelly, and for that matter the rest of the trumpies. I will post as I want when I want, as you are doing, but until there is some discussion with factual information and/or reasoned opinion I'm just not that into what you are saying, to me it's laughable.  Again your words mean nothing without something to support them, your grievances meaningless because all you are is against. Anything to whine about and get your tighty whities in a wad.  It was said very well on Morning Joe this morning. All the trumpies want is to be against an issue because they have no ideas. Enjoy each other, we Progressives and Richard require more. 


05/09/24 12:19 PM #13429    

 

Michael Wetzel

About proof. You should have searched further. Yes, everyone knows who supplies our fuel. Did you know, that our governor, put off the blending until June 14th. Apparently not..............


05/09/24 01:41 PM #13430    

Katie Baribeau (Moore)

Fate whispered to the warrior, "You cannot withstand the coming storm."  And the warrior whispered back, "I am the storm."  Easy.......


05/09/24 01:56 PM #13431    

Richard Deshong

Please provide proof that the Governor of Arizona has the power to make refineries in California delay their change over to summer gas blends just to satisfy the needs of Maricopa County. Do you have any idea what is involved with the changeover at a refiner? It's not a switch that is thrown. It requires the refinery to be totally shut down for almost a week to purge their systems, change input lines, and empty enough storage tanks to start accepting the summer blend once the refinery starts up again. California’s demand is so large that no refinery is going to delay making their changeover just because Arizona’s Governor says to.

Due to a pipeline maintenance issue between California and Arizona, the EPA allowed a one-time exception to the April 1, Arizona change date allowing the California refineries to ship the winter blended gas from their storage tanks to Maricopa County. The EPA did not allow California to delay their May 1 change over deadline. The pipeline repairs were made, and the summer blends started being shipped to Arizona ahead of schedule. Of course, since the refineries had already made their changes they automatically increased the cost Arizona distributors had to pay, who then promptly passed it on to Maricopa drivers, which in turn immediately resulting in Jim C.’s post complaining about what he pays.

You would have known this had you taken the time to “research” the facts before spouting what you learn from Fox News. So go ahead and keep digging yourself into a deeper hole. I’ll gladly keep filling it in on top of you.

Can’t wait to see how Mike Kelly defends you.


05/09/24 02:04 PM #13432    

 

Michael Wetzel

Dude, I found it, you find it...Try using a good research tool for a change, like Duck Duck go...If you want help, just let me know...I'll spell it out for you. Your partially correct, it involves the EPA...........


05/09/24 02:30 PM #13433    

 

Frank Wiley

And here I thought the Gas we get in Phoenix Metro was brought in by Tanker Truck from Tucson after being piped in to Tucson?  N.S.--Have you seen where the illegals around Denver have sent demands to Denver City Hall of the handouts they want?  Ridiculous!!


05/09/24 04:22 PM #13434    

 

Jim Coats

So now the traitor in the Oval is withholding armament voted for and promised to Israel that they need to put Hamas down.  Once again that empty suit is pandering to the radical, progressive wing of the democrat party plus Iran and so on.  It seems to me like Trump was impeached for something similar, but I don't remember exactly.  I'll let one of our anti-America classmates research it for all of us.

SECURE THE BORDER!!  ENFORCE THE LAW!!  AMERICA FIRST!!

VOTE THE DEMOCRATS OUT!!


05/09/24 04:50 PM #13435    

 

Michael Wetzel

" Gov. Hobbs secured the EPA waiver on Thursday " (no date ) As to the delay in starting the sale of blended fuel....Where I made a mistake was on the dates. It continues, " Under the rules, most gas stations in the area can sell winter blend gas until June 14th, this year ". It continues, " Normally, gas stations are required to switch to the summer-compliant blend which is more eco-friendly but more expensive and harder to get "...At least, I mention my mistakes, You should try it once in a while, you might enjoy it... Like when I showed you wrong about K 12 schools, eons ago. You said nothing..............


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